Thanks Paul-On Monday and Tuesday of this week I took miday range trips and tested my cold weather patch lubes-deer tallow,(thanks to another member here)and a bear fat bee's wax mix- both were very good and I would recomend them. no swabbing between shots and as accurate as the hoppe's lube. I'm good to go!I even tried my boot sealer mix which is 2 to 1 bear grease to bee's wax and it shot great also!The buck I shot had 3/4 inch of fat on his hind quarters and that will get renedered after the silly season.How much fun can 1 guy have?