Wonder Wads

[PaulF70]

I have another question: Can someone recommend a powder flask with a 10gr or 15gr or (better) adjustable spout?

I want to load the .36 1858 with 10gr for backyard shooting and 15gr for more serious work.

Thanks.

 

[Newtire]

This is totally contradictory! Are you serious? In in the first sentence you attribute chain fires to ball size, and in the last you invert it and say almost all chain fires occur from the cap end. Which is it?

I'm starting to think some of you guys have nothing to offer but nonsensical bluster.

Some of that probably happens here like on all forums but I think maybe it’s possible to happen from both ends. Someone posted a video somewhere that I saw of the cap going off and there was quite a flash there. Can’t hurt to be safe.

 

[smoothshooter]

This is totally contradictory! Are you serious? In in the first sentence you attribute chain fires to ball size, and in the last you invert it and say almost all chain fires occur from the cap end. Which is it?

I'm starting to think some of you guys have nothing to offer but nonsensical bluster.

Proper diameter balls prevent chain-fires.
Properly sized and secured caps prevent chain-fires.
Wads and grease have no effect on preventing chain-fires.
Don’t know what part of this is bluster.

 

[sourdough]

I'm starting to think some of you guys have nothing to offer but nonsensical bluster.

Well, noob, stick around. Pay attention to other posts and sort it out. You seem to have a predisposition to your line of thought. Maybe that works in your universe.

 

[smoothshooter]

I have another question: Can someone recommend a powder flask with a 10gr or 15gr or (better) adjustable spout?

I want to load the .36 1858 with 10gr for backyard shooting and 15gr for more serious work.

Thanks.

Buy a spout that is a little too long and cut to fit.
A small flask is much better also for several reasons.

15 grains doesn't sound very serious.

 

[smoothshooter]

Ok, if chainfires are really caused from the other end (I've read that too), then lubing the chamber is also not necessary.

This is one of those topics that has no resolution, it seems. I guess no one feels like experimenting with chain fires. I sure don't. (Got to be unnerving at the very least.)

“ The Dreaded Chain Fire (!!!!!) “ can be rather startling, but does no real harm.
The balls come out of the adjacent chambers at about 150 feet per second. I have a cheap BB gun for chasing off pests that shoots faster than that.

When I come up with a chronograph in a few months I am going to remove the barrel from a couple of open-topped revolvers and chronograph shots fired with only the cylinder mounted on the gun.
I pretty much know what to expect, but will try it anyway.

 

[smoothshooter]

You could make your own wads, I do. 1/4 the cost of commercial ones. Lots of youtube videos too.



enjoy your gun

Last time I checked, each Wonder Wad cost more than the powder to shoot it out the barrel.
One reason I never bought them.

 

[Grenadier1758]

I have another question: Can someone recommend a powder flask with a 10gr or 15gr or (better) adjustable spout?

I want to load the .36 1858 with 10gr for backyard shooting and 15gr for more serious work.

Thanks.

How about this flask available from Track of the Wolf? It splits the difference at 12 grains.

Powder Flask, Colt style Unum Flask accepts 8-.75mm threaded spouts - Track of the Wolf

Then order the SPS-025 for a 25 grain spout that you can shorten to a more suitable charge for you.

Otherwise you need a small pistol measure from Deer Creek that is adjustable so you can pour from the above flask to charge the cylinder.

Revolver Powder Measure - A1260 (deercreekproducts.net)

 

[TreeMan]

I’m gonna throw a wrench in the gears and confess that I never use wonder wads or grease. The only time I use anything other than blackpowder is when I compete at our shooting club. Those times I put an equal amount of cream of wheat over my powder before I seat the ball. I’ve shot 1000s of rounds over 30+ years and never had a chain fire. Tight caps and balls that cut a good ring when seated.

 

[Newtire]

Last time I checked, each Wonder Wad cost more than the powder to shoot it out the barrel.
One reason I never bought them.

That little set that chucks up in the drill press or plain old drill I’ve used and it works really well. I make enough wads for all the calibers I have (.31, .36 and .44/.45) to keep me in wads for a long while in about an hour. You could probably make up your own punch for different size shotguns with the right sized copper tube, capped off and a bolt thru the cap so as to be able to fit it into your drill but have never done it. For the price of wads and store bought arch punches, would be worth trying. Just one more fun round-tuit project on my list I suppose.

 

[smoothshooter]

That little set that chucks up in the drill press or plain old drill I’ve used and it works really well. I make enough wads for all the calibers I have (.31, .36 and .44/.45) to keep me in wads for a long while in about an hour. You could probably make up your own punch for different size shotguns with the right sized copper tube, capped off and a bolt thru the cap so as to be able to fit it into your drill but have never done it. For the price of wads and store bought arch punches, would be worth trying. Just one more fun round-tuit project on my list I suppose.

I would not use copper.
Will not hold an edge.
You can make your wads square. Faster and easier to make, and work just as sell as round ones at keeping the fouling down.

 

[Daniel Getz]

only chain fire I ever had was due to crappy remington caps. Fingers McGee once had a chart that showed actual sizes of the brands of caps. one size does not fit all in this case!

 

[smoothshooter]

How about this flask available from Track of the Wolf? It splits the difference at 12 grains.

Powder Flask, Colt style Unum Flask accepts 8-.75mm threaded spouts - Track of the Wolf

Then order the SPS-025 for a 25 grain spout that you can shorten to a more suitable charge for you.

Otherwise you need a small pistol measure from Deer Creek that is adjustable so you can pour from the above flask to charge the cylinder.

Revolver Powder Measure - A1260 (deercreekproducts.net)

I like those a lot.
I use two of them for priming flasks for flintlock long guns, and a third one for percussion revolvers.

 

[PaulF70]

Well, noob, stick around. Pay attention to other posts and sort it out. You seem to have a predisposition to your line of thought. Maybe that works in your universe.

Response doesn't seem to make sense. My comment was in reply to a guy that said that chainfires come from the front of the chamber in one sentence then implied they come from the nipple side in another.

I won't respond to this line of discussion again because I don't want to dirty the forum.

Many thanks to those offering good advice.

 

[Boston Bill]

Ok, now I need some Wonder Wads and they're out of stock.

(Why are muzzie guns/supplies so often in short supply?? It's weird.)

I just got some from TOTW

 

[snuffy19608]

I had one chain fire years ago, I had run out of wads and wanted to fire the last 6 round balls. "What could possibly go wrong?" The chambers on either side of the one in line with the barrel both lit off along with the one I was firing.

Never again. Just bought the punches and felt and started making my own. Followed duelist1954's lube recipe on YT, works great.

 

[TFoley]

Last time I checked, each Wonder Wad cost more than the powder to shoot it out the barrel. One reason I never bought them.

Try buying them here in UK, then, where they can cost around 22c each for .44cal...............

 

[smoothshooter]

Try buying them here in UK, then, where they can cost around 22c each for .44cal...............

Why do people pay that?

 

[Bad Karma]

Why do people pay that?

Our brothers across the pond are typically very wealthy. I’m told they have kippers for breakfast!!