buckleymarka56
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This is how mine came, with about 20 screws to hold on the lid.All parts were there..
Thought about sending back the box for reuse.
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Woodsrunner kit arrived today, kind of.
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Thought about sending back the box for reuse.
It is by no means an easy job to bust that cardboard box out from the crate. The glue is very tough. Photo of the inside of the crate should make it clear what was done.
Has the OP even called Jim Kibler???
Has the OP even called Jim Kibler???
I'm in PA and mine arrived safely on Thursday. However, it did not have packing tape wrapped around it, just the screwed on lid.
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i had a SMR delivered some time ago ... just screws held down the lid and everything was in place ... you box was definitely opened and your property was stolen ...
I'd be on the USPS in a nasty way ... they owe you, at minimum, a refund of the cost of the kit, a refund of the cost of the shipping, and a formal written apology.
"oh, this happens a lot" just doesn't excuse it...
I'd be on the USPS in a nasty way ... they owe you, at minimum, a refund of the cost of the kit, a refund of the cost of the shipping, and a formal written apology.
"oh, this happens a lot" just doesn't excuse it...
Additional inspection of the shipping box has turned up something interesting, and maybe answered a few questions. One of the bottom panels had been completely removed and later reinstalled. However it was flipped end for end. I was looking for signs of hot glue having held down a cardboard box and something just didn't make sense. There was a faint mark on the panel, but I didn't think it could have been right because it was under one of the plywood cross supports. Then I noticed the staple holes didn't line up with the staples. Flip the panel to line up with the staples and the faint mark from the glue falls into place perfectly with the area in the box that should have contained the cardboard box.
So, I don't think for a second the box was left out. The shipping box was opened in transit, items removed, and then the removed panel(s) were put back in place and the strapping tape was used to hold everything together.
I'd like to think the shipping box was dropped, broken open from the drop, and the cardboard box became separated. However I can find no damage which would support that idea. I checked the box for pry marks and damage while the delivery person stood and watched me. I assumed the strapping tape was original, not added in transit.
On a happy note, the stock wood is drop dead gorgeous. Can't wait to see it with some color added.
So, I don't think for a second the box was left out. The shipping box was opened in transit, items removed, and then the removed panel(s) were put back in place and the strapping tape was used to hold everything together.
I'd like to think the shipping box was dropped, broken open from the drop, and the cardboard box became separated. However I can find no damage which would support that idea. I checked the box for pry marks and damage while the delivery person stood and watched me. I assumed the strapping tape was original, not added in transit.
On a happy note, the stock wood is drop dead gorgeous. Can't wait to see it with some color added.
You need to call Jim -- damaged and or stolen parts will be needing his attention.
Yup, call has been made along with an email. The glue marks were there after all. Saw them and didn't think they were glue marks due to them being so faint when compared to the glue marks left by the patch box lid. Since the faint marks were under a cross member I just assumed marks were from something else.
Report to Postal Inspector "firearm components were stolen while in USPS custody".
They want to ban everything remotely related to things that go bang of any shape or form. Then they better damn well step up and own it when THEY eff'd up and lost control of these scary things that make Kens and Karens lose their minds.
They want to ban everything remotely related to things that go bang of any shape or form. Then they better damn well step up and own it when THEY eff'd up and lost control of these scary things that make Kens and Karens lose their minds.
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I’m thinking Kiblers should start adding tamper proof tape. It may deter those clowns a bit. I received some ammo with tamper proof tape on it and it was nice to see.
My Kibler colonial rifle that arrived in January also had a very loose panel on the bottom. fortunately everything important was still inside, had to call and get the instructions which were not there. I have seen several reports of the bottom panels loose including on this forum.
if someone is opening them they are not always stealing parts, perhaps they got a bad batch of boxes and someone put yours back together after things fell out (I know its glued in but who knows what could have happened)
Regardless I agree they need to do something, straps, screws instead of glue for bottom, whatever but this is not acceptable especially since they have been notified this is happening. straps would be a lot cheaper than replacing a $300 lock.
if someone is opening them they are not always stealing parts, perhaps they got a bad batch of boxes and someone put yours back together after things fell out (I know its glued in but who knows what could have happened)
Regardless I agree they need to do something, straps, screws instead of glue for bottom, whatever but this is not acceptable especially since they have been notified this is happening. straps would be a lot cheaper than replacing a $300 lock.
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Mr. Kibler would not be on the hook for a 300 dollar lock.
He did his job when crating it up.
The low rent trash that stole the lock would be on the hook for the 300 dollar lock.
He did his job when crating it up.
The low rent trash that stole the lock would be on the hook for the 300 dollar lock.
We’ll certainly cover anything that is missing or damaged. Sorry for the trouble. We’ve started making some adjustments to the shipping boxes as well.
Jim
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Mine had all the parts and accessories. Found a double indention on the stock that had to be repaired. The back with the glued hard board and staples was opened with strap tape. If you look around the edge of the hard board the raised areas will indicate where it was pried up. Examine the stock all over very close.
I would advise to Jim to also dial back the torque on the screw driver/drill. The screws on my crate were almost pulled through the lid. This and strapping around the crate should be sufficient, I reckon.
I like the tamper proof tape. Thanks!
At first we thought the box lids were just coming off and that it was our fault, but after hearing complaints from 4-5 customers it appears as though the backs are being pried off. Interestingly enough, we put all the small parts (lock, castings etc.) in a small cardboard box glued to the hardboard box bottom. Incidentally these boxes appear to be gone in the boxes that are opened up. It's hard to believe they all came unglued from each box.
To add to this, it seems all boxes with this issue have gone through one post office distribution center. Makes me wonder... We've contacted the post off and they have started investigating. I'm not holding my breath...
Jim
At first we thought the box lids were just coming off and that it was our fault, but after hearing complaints from 4-5 customers it appears as though the backs are being pried off. Interestingly enough, we put all the small parts (lock, castings etc.) in a small cardboard box glued to the hardboard box bottom. Incidentally these boxes appear to be gone in the boxes that are opened up. It's hard to believe they all came unglued from each box.
To add to this, it seems all boxes with this issue have gone through one post office distribution center. Makes me wonder... We've contacted the post off and they have started investigating. I'm not holding my breath...
Jim
I was wondering if the effected boxes had something in common. Like a distribution center. Wonder if the parts are showing up in a pawn shop in the same area.
Thank you again for taking such great care of my situation!
BillyC
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My SMR is due here tomorrow, hopefully it arrives in the same great shape as my first one. Fingers crossed.
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Thank you Jim. I am the lucky one that did not lose my lock and parts. I had two gouges in my stock but I just filled them with some saw dust and cyano glue, I can see them but it's my choice. Best customer service from anyone I have dealt with.
Should I ask which DC?
