Wrapped bird shot

[GREENSWLDE]

They would also make paper tubes, and pour in melted beeswax, and allow that to harden to try and get a tighter pattern at distance.

LD

Old Seal hunters trick, on RTO cartridges.Apparently good for75/80 yards..O.D.

 

[#BPBReloadingFFL]

Old Seal shooters trick.Some used candle wax. O.D.

Your not going to get anything but one solid slug,maybe maybe it will break into 2 PCs at best.
When I made some of these up man many decades ago it was a solid slug hitting the target.

 

[Brokennock]

Your not going to get anything but one solid slug,maybe maybe it will break into 2 PCs at best.
When I made some of these up man many decades ago it was a solid slug hitting the target.

And yet it was a historically documented method.... hmm

Operator error? Different type of wax? Historically did they have sine way of "tempering" the wax to make it more brittle?
I think I've read that they used tallow for the candle load but it would take quite a while to dig up my screenshots from past discussions.

 

[Kev308]

I've got a very 101 question.

So you're just twisting and folding the top of the paper? Does that affect the groups?

I'm thinking for duck and quail season this is probably the way to go.

I’m really curious about yhis also? What kind of patterns are you getting?? I use the Skychief loadout but I’m always up for an easier way to load my smoothbores
I’m referring to banjomans loading method obviously
Thanks Kevin

 

[nhmoose]

Think folks shootin a a seal at 70-80 yards you want a slug. Pouring wax into a shot load makes a slug, a poor one but works most times.

Doubt any size shot will kill a seal unless up close and personal.

During the depression poor folk did not use a shotgun for small game they used the cheaper 22 rifle for that and poured wax into a cut open shot load to make a crude slug for big game as you could get more meat for the cost of the shot. Still a viable survival method today.

 

[MrTwelvette]

And yet it was a historically documented method.... hmm

Operator error? Different type of wax? Historically did they have sine way of "tempering" the wax to make it more brittle?
I think I've read that they used tallow for the candle load but it would take quite a while to dig up my screenshots from past discussions.

About 10 years ago I found the website/blog of an American gentleman who shot his beretta o/u muzzle loader on a skeet range with breechloaders. He made slugs of shot and brittle wax, and used the ramrod to disrupt/break the wax slug once seated on the wad. Presumably it was a decent bit undersized

He claimed he could keep up with the breechloaders and that the wax acted as a buffer and improved his pattern. I also remember him writing that getting the wax mix was a bit finicky, it wouldn't perform if it got warm and softened. Tended to slug

I've lost the bookmark but I think the blog is defunct now anyway.

I've got a true cylinder 8 bore zouave I don't shoot nearly enough. I must do some experimenting in 2025!

 

[Brokennock]

About 10 years ago I found the website/blog of an American gentleman who shot his beretta o/u muzzle loader on a skeet range with breechloaders. He made slugs of shot and brittle wax, and used the ramrod to disrupt/break the wax slug once seated on the wad. Presumably it was a decent bit undersized

He claimed he could keep up with the breechloaders and that the wax acted as a buffer and improved his pattern. I also remember him writing that getting the wax mix was a bit finicky, it wouldn't perform if it got warm and softened. Tended to slug

I've lost the bookmark but I think the blog is defunct now anyway.

I've got a true cylinder 8 bore zouave I don't shoot nearly enough. I must do some experimenting in 2025!

This sounds about like what I remember reading at some point.