Packing with grease

Bad Karma · Nov 29, 2021

William Lincoln said:
Summing it all up, for the average guy this grease packing idea sounds good. By
bringing it up, more guys are trying it. Experience and time will tell--but it is a
good idea to try it. It would save extra work for us and drudgery for others.
The type of grease might be the key here. If it doesn't run a lot and stays in the
internals then great. Frankly, it could be a great advance. I'm trying it out and
we have to thank the forum members for bringing the idea to our attention.

On a traditional board such as this the reactions can be quite intense. “If it ain’t the way uncle Festus did it it shouldn’t be done!”
Quite a few of us neo traditionalist shooters have done it and anecdotally at least, packing works very well. I’m glad others are willing to keep an open mind and give the process a fair shake. Who knows? Maybe taking some of the time and procedure out of shooting these guns will encourage more people to try them.

tomm9903 · Nov 29, 2021

Speaking of packing with grease, I have noticed after firing a couple of cylinders full that I get a lot manure that migrates into and around the cylinder pin making cocking the revolver more difficult. I have an 1858 Remington and was wondering if greasing the pin would help prevent or mitigate this issue. I see that Dixie Gun Works has what they call Black Solve that helps with this. Any thoughts/ experience with this.

bigstick6017555 · Nov 29, 2021

tomm9903 said:
Speaking of packing with grease, I have noticed after firing a couple of cylinders full that I get a lot manure that migrates into and around the cylinder pin making cocking the revolver more difficult. I have an 1858 Remington and was wondering if greasing the pin would help prevent or mitigate this issue. I see that Dixie Gun Works has what they call Black Solve that helps with this. Any thoughts/ experience with this.

The Remingtons are noted for that, smaller arbor than the Colts. I only shoot Colts and use Lubriplate lithium grease, works well for me, again the Colts hold more grease on arbor than Remingtons

tomm9903 · Nov 29, 2021

Thank you, I think I’ll give it a try this weekend. See what happens.

Whughett · Nov 29, 2021

Not much cure for the fouled base pin on NMA’s other than wiping it clean after a few cylinders. Fortunately it’s a simple matter of lowering the loading lever and pulling the base pin out. Rogers and Spencer’s and ROA addressed that by adding a bushing to the front of the cylinder.

TCMonts · Nov 29, 2021

OK, the grease sounds like it may be a winner but I'm curious now about this "shield". Anybody got a pic they can post.

William Lincoln · Nov 29, 2021

You can get a little better service out of the Rem NMA by taking a small triangular file
and cutting small grooves in the arbor, enough to hold grease. but not weaken the arbor.
Four or five small ones and pack with your usual lube. Helps some.

CaptainKirk · Nov 29, 2021

TCMonts said:
OK, the grease sounds like it may be a winner but I'm curious now about this "shield". Anybody got a pic they can post.

Yep. It's the brass strip beneath the hammer. Note the red Mobil 1 grease used by Mike, as well as the cap rake in the hammer slot.

Flintlock · Nov 29, 2021

bigstick6017555 said:
The Remingtons are noted for that, smaller arbor than the Colts. I only shoot Colts and use Lubriplate lithium grease, works well for me, again the Colts hold more grease on arbor than Remingtons

I use white Lithium a lot but come winter time it gets to thick to be dependable.

bigstick6017555 · Nov 29, 2021

Flintlock said:
I use white Lithium a lot but come winter time it gets to thick to be dependable.

The lubriplate I use has a range of -30°F to 350°F. Lubriplate sells many grades of grease and temp applications

Blackpowderwarrior · Nov 29, 2021

CaptainKirk said:
Yep. It's the brass strip beneath the hammer. Note the red Mobil 1 grease used by Mike, as well as the cap rake in the hammer slot.

How does that added sight work on that open top?

45D · Nov 29, 2021

I have an answer for the Remington base pin binding. I thought I had a picture available but I don't (not a good one anyway). I have a couple of base pins in the shop so I'll do one tomorrow as a display. I came up with my fix for the competition crowd. They needed something that would work for a whole match . . . especially if you load on the gun. Seems to do the trick, you can shoot all day without binding!

Mike

No second place · Nov 30, 2021

45D said:
I have an answer for the Remington base pin binding. I thought I had a picture available but I don't (not a good one anyway). I have a couple of base pins in the shop so I'll do one tomorrow as a display. I came up with my fix for the competition crowd. They needed something that would work for a whole match . . . especially if you load on the gun. Seems to do the trick, you can shoot all day without binding!

Mike

What sort of matches and competition crowd?...c

45D · Nov 30, 2021

Cowboy Action. I have a fairly large customer base of these folks.

Mike

William Lincoln · Nov 30, 2021

Rem NMA base pin improvement is a marketable item. Appreciate photo
of one 45D. There is a 1858 NMA Club on HR--of interest.

nkbj · Nov 30, 2021

About sixty years ago us cousins would discuss the home place, the goings on up the hill that our grandparents' generation owned. Witnessing their shared behavior and not yet comprehending the infirmities of age we worried that the madness was inherited.

Meanwhile, got my synthetic grease in a fruit jar.

GrandLakeHunter · Nov 30, 2021

TrapperDude said:
I've read that using non-organic lubricants can cause non-smokeless powder fouling to get gummy and harder to remove. Do the synthetics behave differently with such fouling, compared to mineral-based lubricants?

You are referring to their use as a bullet lube or over bullet filler. They are subjected to much more heat and fouling than when used to encapsulate the small action parts in the relatively protected frame cavity.

TrapperDude · Nov 30, 2021

45D said:
I have an answer for the Remington base pin binding. I thought I had a picture available but I don't (not a good one anyway). I have a couple of base pins in the shop so I'll do one tomorrow as a display. I came up with my fix for the competition crowd. They needed something that would work for a whole match . . . especially if you load on the gun. Seems to do the trick, you can shoot all day without binding!

Mike

Does it involve length-wise channels to hold grease and reduce friction?

Desperate Lee · Nov 30, 2021

Bad Karma said:
On a traditional board such as this the reactions can be quite intense. “If it ain’t the way uncle Festus did it it shouldn’t be done!”
Quite a few of us neo traditionalist shooters have done it and anecdotally at least, packing works very well. I’m glad others are willing to keep an open mind and give the process a fair shake. Who knows? Maybe taking some of the time and procedure out of shooting these guns will encourage more people to try them.

BK
I was at a gun show at Dallas Market Hall one year searching tables as i always do and came across my G&G only in 44 cal. She is a Pietta. You could not cock the hammer or pull the trigger but the cylinder would turn some. I examined the pistol and started to walk away. The guy in the booth said alot of people pick it up and then put it back down. The guy days "What gives, I know nothing about bp guns". I tell him it is ruined on the inside. "Well what will you give me for it?" I said it is only worth $ 35 to me in parts. "Sold". Got it home, so jammed packed with hard grease the hand was bent as was the cylinder stop. took a day of scrubbing and scrapingto clean it up. I straightened and re-timed the revolver. I do put a touch of LSA on my action parts but i do not jam pack them. Oh and the G&G? See pic below. This is after i straightened all parts, re-timed her and antique her. Aint she a bute.
DL

CaptainKirk · Nov 30, 2021

Blackpowderwarrior said:
How does that added sight work on that open top?

Works great except it shoots way off to the right...LOL! Did not have time for adjustment on her maiden run.

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