Ruger Old Army Upgrade

Fully agreed and its why I always say, don't just list a volume, get it on a scale and list what weight your measure actually is. I can then translate that to my volume measure.

Some people don't want to know the truth...

Smokerr said:

Fully agreed and its why I always say, don't just list a volume, get it on a scale and list what weight your measure actually is. I can then translate that to my volume measure.

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Well even weight is batch variable so volume is still more consistent over all than is weight from my experience.
Another variable is the amount of fines left in the cans that mixes with the grains. It doesn't hurt to re-screen or "sock" each can of some powders like Goex or Elephant for more consistency. The fines will provide all the pan powder one will ever use.

Smokerr said:

Fully agreed and its why I always say, don't just list a volume, get it on a scale and list what weight your measure actually is. I can then translate that to my volume measure.

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Precisely! I never got into weighing my charges until I had a fellow here run the same powder charges and the bullets I sent him so the only way to be on the same page is to weigh it.

dickydalton said:

Some people don't want to know the truth...

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Ain’t that the truth! Even if you present it to them…

M. De Land said:

Well even weight is batch variable so volume is still more consistent over all than is weight from my experience.
Another variable is the amount of fines left in the cans that mixes with the grains. It doesn't hurt to re-screen or "sock" each can of some powders like Goex or Elephant for more consistency. The fines will provide all the pan powder one will ever use.

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And still that variable. But I’m more than good with within reason, a small field it should fall in. I feel any listed results by an accurate measure gives a good idea with a variable of +/- X fps. I’m more than okay with a good idea.

rodwha said:

Ain’t that the truth! Even if you present it to them…

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I wish you didn't live so far away. I would enjoy an afternoon talking to you, Sir.

dickydalton said:

I wish you didn't live so far away. I would enjoy an afternoon talking to you, Sir.

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Likewise! I guess we’re far then?

Hi all! Here’s mine with the Hogue grip. Not so pretty, but functional. Little bit too fat, but one can file and sand it ))

Also with a British axis pin from ebay. Original is still bent - at the gunsmith.

what most do not understand is the Ruger uses a .45 Colt barrel and the twist of 1 in 16 is way too fast for a RB. Shoot them with 20 gr and a filler and they do well. But for deer I use 41 gr of Swiss FFFG for 1102 FPS. ONLY close range shots because at 50 it sucks. However it will kill deer just fine at 20 yards or less.

dickydalton said:

Some people don't want to know the truth...

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And then there are those who don't actually know what is true but only think they have a lock on it!

M. De Land said:

Well even weight is batch variable so volume is still more consistent over all than is weight from my experience.
Another variable is the amount of fines left in the cans that mixes with the grains. It doesn't hurt to re-screen or "sock" each can of some powders like Goex or Elephant for more consistency. The fines will provide all the pan powder one will ever use.

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One finds that weight variability is far more inconsistent for long and mid range black powder cartridge competition by actual range testing than is volume measuring. This is the reason top competitors will not mix powder batches but will work up a new load when they exhaust a supply.
It is also one of the reasons they all use a drop tube to compact powder in cases so as not to fracture powder grains and change grain size which effects weight, volume and burn rate.
Some will re-screen or even "sock" their powder before loading to eliminate the fines that give them more extreme spread in fps. This is a very big deal effecting trajectory path at extreme range that hand gun shooting will never reveal but of course is still present to a lessor degree.

45man said:

what most do not understand is the Ruger uses a .45 Colt barrel and the twist of 1 in 16 is way too fast for a RB. Shoot them with 20 gr and a filler and they do well. But for deer I use 41 gr of Swiss FFFG for 1102 FPS. ONLY close range shots because at 50 it sucks. However it will kill deer just fine at 20 yards or less.

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Why not use a bullet for hunting? There’s a few commercial examples available, or you could create your own designs like I have. My Remington NMA also has a 1:16” twist and I’ve been working on fine tuning their most accurate hunting load starting at 25 grns and so far is 33 grns of weighed 3F Olde Eynsford in the NMA and 38 grns in the ROA, and the excess chamber space is quite similar and so I’ll be creating a universal bullet for them that looks to weigh ~235 +/-, it’ll be a screamer for sure and will be plenty accurate much further than 25 yds.

45man said:

what most do not understand is the Ruger uses a .45 Colt barrel and the twist of 1 in 16 is way too fast for a RB. Shoot them with 20 gr and a filler and they do well. But for deer I use 41 gr of Swiss FFFG for 1102 FPS. ONLY close range shots because at 50 it sucks. However it will kill deer just fine at 20 yards or less.

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Actually, Ruger uses a Ruger 45 cal barrel and Uberti's offerings (across the board save for belt pistols) have 1:18" twist (since early 2000's). Pietta uses slow twist in their Colt open-top platform revolvers but fast twist in their Remington platform (maybe 1:16" (looks a tad faster than Uberti's)).

Mike

I did actually make a mold for a bullet that also works in my 1911's. I just have not worked with it much in the Ruger. It is just too hot to go down to my range.
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