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Just found out the recently resurrected Thompson Center arms company is going to start producing Hawkens again.

The owner of the company stated this on a recent Hornady podcast. Also, on the Thompson Center YouTube channel the owner is showing lots of support to commenters asking for new Hawkens.

Just thought I’d share!

-Smokey
 
Would be nice to see a USA made production gun. Likely the timeline for this depends on how much of the tooling was kept by Smith and Wesson. They were able to start up the encore line pretty quickly with some existing machinery at subcontractors and from S&W, as well as a cache of leftover parts. But I'm also betting they're going to be pricey and may not be an entry price point for new shooters.
 
nchawkeye said:
Never had much need for a percussion gun. If they are $1,200, you would be much better off with a Kibler.
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They do not market to the same buyer. One is a production percussion rifle and the other a kit to make a flintlock rifle.

There are many on here that have lots of time and are good to fine craftsmen. Others have no time and are all thumbs.
 
While this is good news there is no way they are going to sell a new rifle for less than a grand.
I think the 1200 guess is likely.

But will they back their products with a similar guarantee as the old company did back in the day.

Kind of concerned that they will go and make the new guns incompatible with the old guns. Betcha won't be able to slap an old lock in one of their new guns. Just a gut feeling, I have nothing to go on really other than my knowledge of corporate greed.
 
Price points will likely be determined by estimated demand, and of course cost to manufacture one. So, if it cost (direct and indirect cost) of say $500 to build one, and say that other non-manufacturing cost (Sales, shipping, management wages, etc) are $1-million.

If they price the product at $800, they need to sell ($1,000,000\$300)= 3,333 units to break even. If they price them at say $1,000\unit then they need to sell ($1,000,000\$500)= 2,000 units to break even.

The math is bigger and a tad more complex than this, but those manufacturer accountants are pretty good at this stuff.
 
When I bought my first muzzleloader in the early 1970s it seemed to be a fair amount of money. At that time I was a railroad pipe fitter and making better than average wages of about $7.00 an hour. Today’s entry level wags are considerably higher so as we all should know buying a decent muzzleloader will cost more then the bottom of the barrel that bring over $400 and up.
 

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