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Don't want to side track the thread but another interpretation of:
"The amount of British stuff we could get in our shops prior to 4 years ago was pretty comprehensive. We hardly get any now except at hugely inflated prices. Spread that across 20 - odd other European countries and that's a hell of a lot of British business....."
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Looks alot like:
"Bend the knee or pay the price"
Nothing but good old fashion extortion.
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Never mind, I forgot that when a Governmental body does it it's not "extortion".
 
A lot of UK residents would be happier if they moved to the US, but getting any of them to give up that infernal National Health Insurance is almost impossible under any circumstances. They could buy health insurance here on the private market with the money they would save not having to pay the UK taxes and lower cost of living. And the medical care here would better and faster.
 
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"The ICC’s move has sparked divisions, with the United States denouncing the warrants and some U.S. allies pledging to execute the warrants. The European Union’s foreign policy chief on Saturday reminded the bloc’s member states that they are obligated to enforce the warrants",
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Sounds like the EU feels entitled to control more than just 'trade deals'.
 
Rudyard said:
I was totaly against the Common market it was a sell out smack in the face of the colonies who gave their all in three wars only to be disadvantaged in favour of Europe mostly composed of old enimies and inefficient farmers By Ted Bloody Heath & his twenty pieces of silver Yought morning Cloud . Wellingtons" a whif of grapeshot" seem befitting it cost me & all brits our birthright disavantaged such as Aus & New Zealanders . I landed in Freemantle after overlanding to Ceylon in 1966 I had a whole three pounds to my name but it was just like walking from one English county to another . Now its all visa poop thanks to the Common bloody market .My Sister lives in Spain .The only Spain I knew was Franko's incidently the ovelanding though Asia was so common it was deemed "The milk run" no border asked for onward tickets or visas funds ect whitch was fine by me as I had just 16 pounds to go from Milan to Bombay . Today it a political mess same as the West Africa & travelled 8 mounths in 1965. Today you couldnt do that . Sad world .I wanted to go to a shoot in Alberta Ide been in the states but at Buffalo the Indian border ***** considered I hadnt enough money refused me might birth right Damn East Indian LET & Hinderance . I couldnt tell her Ide hitch up to Cartier & hop a CN so by days end with luck Ide be half way to Alberta .All the Canadian border seems stacked with negative border bods Its like they pick them from the most negative pratts they can find .wasnt that way when I lived in BC Western Canada. It wasnt shiney pants burocrats made Canada it was Ruffians of my sort that did .not East African rejects.
Rudyard the ruffian
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Why is it you never moved to the US?
 
Nor'Easter said:
"The ICC’s move has sparked divisions, with the United States denouncing the warrants and some U.S. allies pledging to execute the warrants. The European Union’s foreign policy chief on Saturday reminded the bloc’s member states that they are obligated to enforce the warrants",
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Sounds like the EU feels entitled to control more than just 'trade deals'.
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I think Britain’s main problems are two-fold : They never broke entirely free from the EU, and the Socialists in the UK government and voters still oppose free market participation and support socialized medicine.
Britain used to be a leading manufacturer and exporter but they have hamstrung themselves and can no longer produce goods at competitive prices.
Sad, really.
 
smoothshooter said:
I think Britain’s main problems are two-fold : They never broke entirely free from the EU, and the Socialists in the UK government and voters still oppose free market participation and support socialized medicine.
Britain used to be a leading manufacturer and exporter but they have hamstrung themselves and can no longer produce goods at competitive prices.
Sad, really.
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It’s still a green and pleasant land , but cold and wet though. I did not like the EU politics , and “ England will do what it’s told” I voted leave. The EU is the looser Sorry to loose the freedom to live in France , but equally we can have more say over our borders and immigrants. No more fortress EU. Life in uk is great . Yes are national health system is great , no complaints. Of course our gun laws suck. Such is life Have lived in Nigeria and Oz , but glad to get home at 81.
 
Gordoncourtney said:
It’s still a green and pleasant land , but cold and wet though. I did not like the EU politics , and “ England will do what it’s told” I voted leave. The EU is the looser Sorry to loose the freedom to live in France , but equally we can have more say over our borders and immigrants. No more fortress EU. Life in uk is great . Yes are national health system is great , no complaints. Of course our gun laws suck. Such is life Have lived in Nigeria and Oz , but glad to get home at 81.
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The loss of freedom of speech in the UK and Commonwealth countries is as alarming to me as their encroachment on people’s desire to own firearms.
I started to say “right to own firearms”, but I don’t think Britain has ever acknowledged that as a right of their citizenry.
They don’t like the idea of a possible citizen uprising against an oppressive government.
 
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Gordoncourtney said:
It’s still a green and pleasant land , but cold and wet though. I did not like the EU politics , and “ England will do what it’s told” I voted leave. The EU is the looser Sorry to loose the freedom to live in France , but equally we can have more say over our borders and immigrants. No more fortress EU. Life in uk is great . Yes are national health system is great , no complaints. Of course our gun laws suck. Such is life Have lived in Nigeria and Oz , but glad to get home at 81.
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I live in the EU (Gun laws are great here by the way). In no way is the EU the loser - in fact they are glad we have gone, as we were always a troublesome member country. In any case, despite what the Brexiters told us, EU countries do have sovereignty. Remember when Hungary refused the EU request to take Syrian immigrants? The UK on the other hand, who left the EU to control its borders, had 780 thousand; Yes - nearly a MILLION legal imigrants last year. Britain was only 'told what to do' according to influencial newspaper owners who stood to gain by Brexit. Many of the 'EU Regulations' the Daily Mail etc were so keen to get rid of were protective laws on water and food quuality, and were proposed by the Thatcher government. NATO on the other hand does tell us what to do. Should we leave that next...? The NHS is rubbish by the way. I worked for it for 36 years and when I took early retirement from it 6 years ago it was falling apart then. EU countries have a far better mostly privatised system which resembles that of the US.
 
Sir Boniface Harrison said:
I live in the EU (Gun laws are great here by the way). In no way is the EU the loser - in fact they are glad we have gone, as we were always a troublesome member country. In any case, despite what the Brexiters told us, EU countries do have sovereignty. Remember when Hungary refused the EU request to take Syrian immigrants? The UK on the other hand, who left the EU to control its borders, had 780 thousand; Yes - nearly a MILLION legal imigrants last year. Britain was only 'told what to do' according to influencial newspaper owners who stood to gain by Brexit. Many of the 'EU Regulations' the Daily Mail etc were so keen to get rid of were protective laws on water and food quuality, and were proposed by the Thatcher government. NATO on the other hand does tell us what to do. Should we leave that next...? The NHS is rubbish by the way. I worked for it for 36 years and when I took early retirement from it 6 years ago it was falling apart then. EU countries have a far better mostly privatised system which resembles that of the US.
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I have been with Marsden fighting cancer since 2018 probably best in the world.
 
Gordoncourtney said:
I have been with Marsden fighting cancer since 2018 probably best in the world.
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And no it was Junkers the banker who stood up and said “England will do what it’s told”. Seems an unelected German will take over from junkers At 81 I say good riddance to the EU However my kids are Europeans . My ancestors come from France 1160. I drive a French Rapido
Motorhome .
As far as hunting not seen anything , no hogs deer etc in the whole of south west of France and all the way to the med. done a lot of farm hunting in UK. Many gun
Laws are very strict in the EU , it’s not a bed of roses , hunted in Nigeria , shot nothing , ha ha

Our pcp air gun laws are better than in the EU. I hunt squirrels

The police took away my unmentionable shotgun guns as I might shoot intruders , they are under heavy gun ownership pressure

We beg to differ, we both seem pissed off with out governments . Seems best to live in Alaska. I wish you well

I am still a gunny man , cannot wait to get back to France
 

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Gordoncourtney said:
And no it was Junkers the banker who stood up and said “England will do what it’s told”. Seems an unelected German will take over from junkers At 81 I say good riddance to the EU However my kids are Europeans . My ancestors come from France 1160. I drive a French Rapido
Motorhome .
As far as hunting not seen anything , no hogs deer etc in the whole of south west of France and all the way to the med. done a lot of farm hunting in UK. Many gun
Laws are very strict in the EU , it’s not a bed of roses , hunted in Nigeria , shot nothing , ha ha

Our pcp air gun laws are better than in the EU. I hunt squirrels

The police took away my unmentionable shotgun guns as I might shoot intruders , they are under heavy gun ownership pressure

We beg to differ, we both seem pissed off with out governments . Seems best to live in Alaska. I wish you well

I am still a gunny man , cannot wait to get back to France
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'Seems best to live in Alaska.' I can't disagree with you there!
 
smoothshooter said:
The loss of freedom of speech in the UK and Commonwealth countries is as alarming to me as their encroachment on people’s desire to own firearms.
I started to say “right to own firearms”, but I don’t think Britain has ever acknowledged that as a right of their citizenry.
They don’t like the idea of a possible citizen uprising against an oppressive government.
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I gather the army was responsible for maintaining the firearms in uk, In other words they were pro guns and shotguns you could buy over the counter. And just a police formality to buy pistols and rifles

However Parliament do gooders decided the home office should be responsible for firerarms, not the army, mid 1970s I recall , they , pen pushers, at the Home Offive did not like guns or an armed nation. So like me , guns get taken away by police, uk is not a gunny nation . Of course I stand corrected on the above. It’s all politics . Should have taken up playing the violin. I paint so I do try, ha ha. Antique guns hang on my walls , but you cannot fire them. Such is life .

Just cleaning my Scottish ml big game rifle, perfect for buff or mmmmm France , need a permit to carry though , Then like Nigeria there’s nothing to shoot Ha ha. Same as barren Western Australia, nothing to shoot . Now , but much of Oz , utube, is a hunters paradise . Just rambling on. Enjoy your life ha ha
 

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Gordoncourtney said:
I gather the army was responsible for maintaining the firearms in uk, In other words they were pro guns and shotguns you could buy over the counter. And just a police formality to buy pistols and rifles

However Parliament do gooders decided the home office should be responsible for firerarms, not the army, mid 1970s I recall , they , pen pushers, at the Home Offive did not like guns or an armed nation. So like me , guns get taken away by police, uk is not a gunny nation . Of course I stand corrected on the above. It’s all politics . Should have taken up playing the violin. I paint so I do try, ha ha. Antique guns hang on my walls , but you cannot fire them. Such is life .

Just cleaning my Scottish ml big game rifle, perfect for buff or mmmmm France , need a permit to carry though , Then like Nigeria there’s nothing to shoot Ha ha. Same as barren Western Australia, nothing to shoot . Now , but much of Oz , utube, is a hunters paradise . Just rambling on. Enjoy your life ha ha
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I will admit you DO have an interesting and nice collection.
It’s just too bad you guys have all the restrictions over there.
Our Founding Fathers believed it was a good thing for the government to be just a little afraid of their citizenry. It is a safeguard against politicians becoming too oppressive.
 
smoothshooter said:
I will admit you DO have an interesting and nice collection.
It’s just too bad you guys have all the restrictions over there.
Our Founding Fathers believed it was a good thing for the government to be just a little afraid of their citizenry. It is a safeguard against politicians becoming too oppressive.
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I just buy at Holts uk auction , i get tempted 4 times a year. A third are cheap relics . I have done up or restocked. Like an 8 gauge shotgun for £130’. A rusty cape gun for £140’etv I just love guns Am 81 so had years to collect , got several double rifles, they were expensive, better to have guns on the wall than money sitting in the bank. Today I just shoot my bsa scorpio pump up pcp airguns plus ionx bow and arrow , got 80 yards of wooded garden to shoot in , what more does one want, et ????? I want a double .577 rifle , I can buy that without a police permit. Of course it’s an unmentionable , just like my 450-400 double . Thank you got your kind words
smoothshooter said:
I will admit you DO have an interesting and nice collection.
It’s just too bad you guys have all the restrictions over there.
Our Founding Fathers believed it was a good thing for the government to be just a little afraid of their citizenry. It is a safeguard against politicians becoming too oppressive.
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A closer look. A third are relics I have done up or made. I like martini rifles and cape rifles , especially Swiss Most of all love 1890s double rifles got three .36 ml, 577-500 no 2, and a 450-400. Several flintlocks I made but with 1810 Bess flintlock actions One ml cape rifle had dented barrels and broken stock a £120 relic , a slightly rusty one by Reilly a bit more ££ I got the little German mountain carbine this year £659 then last year the Swiss 1851 Feldstutzer £800 Guns are like a disease especially double rifles. Ha ha.

Love from nr London
 

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smoothshooter said:
The loss of freedom of speech in the UK and Commonwealth countries is as alarming to me as their encroachment on people’s desire to own firearms.
I started to say “right to own firearms”, but I don’t think Britain has ever acknowledged that as a right of their citizenry.
They don’t like the idea of a possible citizen uprising against an oppressive government.
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True. It all began in the aftermath of WW1, when there were almost five million EX-service personnel who wanted something better than the crap-shoot they were handed. They were promised 'a land fit for heroes' and that never even nearly happened. The government of the day, seeing what had happened in russia in October of 1917, were frightened f*rtless that it was going to happen here, too, and began to lay the path that has led to where we are now.

In fact, the 1689 Bill of Rights DOES say that 'gentlemen should arm themselves', but only if the were 'good protestants' in order to defend against 'the wiles of popery'.

The ordinary person was never going to be able to afford firearms of any kind, hence the use of stone/pellet shooting 'crossbows' by country-living persons. No need to defend themselves against aggrieved natives like you guys had to - they WERE the aggrieved natives.
 
Gordoncourtney said:
I just buy at Holts uk auction , i get tempted 4 times a year. A third are cheap relics . I have done up or restocked. Like an 8 gauge shotgun for £130’. A rusty cape gun for £140’etv I just love guns Am 81 so had years to collect , got several double rifles, they were expensive, better to have guns on the wall than money sitting in the bank. Today I just shoot my bsa scorpio pump up pcp airguns plus ionx bow and arrow , got 80 yards of wooded garden to shoot in , what more does one want, et ????? I want a double .577 rifle , I can buy that without a police permit. Of course it’s an unmentionable , just like my 450-400 double . Thank you got your kind words

A closer look. A third are relics I have done up or made. I like martini rifles and cape rifles , especially Swiss Most of all love 1890s double rifles got three .36 ml, 577-500 no 2, and a 450-400. Several flintlocks I made but with 1810 Bess flintlock actions One ml cape rifle had dented barrels and broken stock a £120 relic , a slightly rusty one by Reilly a bit more ££ I got the little German mountain carbine this year £659 then last year the Swiss 1851 Feldstutzer £800 Guns are like a disease especially double rifles. Ha ha.

Love from nr London
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Nice Epiphone Les paul, and is that a banjo just in shot? I have a couple of Gretsches, a Gibson and a 'Django Reinhardt' guitar. Oh, and a trumpet! Somehow they kind of go with the gun rack.
 
Sir Boniface Harrison said:
Nice Epiphone Les paul, and is that a banjo just in shot? I have a couple of Gretsches, a Gibson and a 'Django Reinhardt' guitar. Oh, and a trumpet! Somehow they kind of go with the gun rack.
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The moderator won’t like our conversations for long, ha ha, yes they are my sons (51) he buys and sells guitars like I with guns. He’s only got a tiny flat so keeps stuff here . I play but not as good as david, especially banjo . I just rebuilt my Hills pump for my 3000psi pcp air guns , plenty of squirrels, how do you skin them , takes ages. 3 foxes around two . Been discussing ml
buff hunting with friends , some say you should use a modern rifle , think of the poor animal , that’s the same in WA Oz. Use a proper gun . I am happy if a ml does a proper job David is a bit nervous of singing, no confidence , but he sings on utube
Nice to chat , bitter cold west of London

Ps I got this fender valve amp at a car boot sale for £1 New valves £26. Sounds brill.

Sir Boniface Harrison said:
Nice Epiphone Les paul, and is that a banjo just in shot? I have a couple of Gretsches, a Gibson and a 'Django Reinhardt' guitar. Oh, and a trumpet! Somehow they kind of go with the gun rack.
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Gordoncourtney said:
The moderator won’t like our conversations for long, ha ha, yes they are my sons (51) he buys and sells guitars like I with guns. He’s only got a tiny flat so keeps stuff here . I play but not as good as david, especially banjo . I just rebuilt my Hills pump for my 3000psi pcp air guns , plenty of squirrels, how do you skin them , takes ages. 3 foxes around two . Been discussing ml
buff hunting with friends , some say you should use a modern rifle , think of the poor animal , that’s the same in WA Oz. Use a proper gun . I am happy if a ml does a proper job David is a bit nervous of singing, no confidence , but he sings on utube
Nice to chat , bitter cold west of London

Ps I got this fender valve amp at a car boot sale for £1 New valves £26. Sounds brill.
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Gordoncourtney said:
The moderator won’t like our conversations for long, ha ha, yes they are my sons (51) he buys and sells guitars like I with guns. He’s only got a tiny flat so keeps stuff here . I play but not as good as david, especially banjo . I just rebuilt my Hills pump for my 3000psi pcp air guns , plenty of squirrels, how do you skin them , takes ages. 3 foxes around two . Been discussing ml
buff hunting with friends , some say you should use a modern rifle , think of the poor animal , that’s the same in WA Oz. Use a proper gun . I am happy if a ml does a proper job David is a bit nervous of singing, no confidence , but he sings on utube
Nice to chat , bitter cold west of London

Ps I got this fender valve amp at a car boot sale for £1 New valves £26. Sounds brill.
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