Fusil de Chasse, at last!!!

oreclan · 2025-03-15T15:03:29-0400

tenngun said:
You mean it’s not a hunting gun???

Yes. Look at the furniture and round faced flintlock. These are pictured as French muskets.
Of course they can be used by civilians for hunting.

pipascus · 2025-03-15T15:11:22-0400

bud in pa said:
Yes, Jersey has a reputation for being nasty and obnoxious when you piss them off.

OK.
Good.
I grew up a bit in NY and had an aunt in New Jersey. Vague memories.
But realizing the the misunderstanding had me laughing so hard I was in tears.

Thanks man!

pipascus · 2025-03-15T15:12:31-0400

Twisted_1in66 said:
Yes and right away because that is just as dangerous or more so than a safety that doesn't work on a modern arm.

At reenactments, If a firearm can't hang its own weight while in half cock without dropping the cock, it can't be used. As part of the inspection you have to put the musket, fowler, or rifle in half-cock and then hold it off the ground hanging by the trigger on only your index finger without the cock releasing. It's part of the safety inspection each day of the reenactment

Literally just communicated with the Muzzleloader Shop and they said to send the lock back and they will fix it.

tenngun · 2025-03-15T16:14:15-0400

pipascus said:
I was told the stock on my gun is Rosewood. I guess that's a hardwood also.
That being said, I will still thin it down. It's just too "fat" right now.
I've seen examples of others having done it, and they look good.

I’ve thinned mine sans problem. It’s a .76. It handles 140 grains of 2f with out a problem, but shoot 110
And the lock throws a ton of sparks
I’ve had Davis, L and R and Chambers locks and never had one that sparked better

Clark Badgett · 2025-03-15T21:18:45-0400

pipascus said:
And I wish Clark Badgett would see that, and contribute his knowledge to help. "It's not a FDC and never will be, but here's what you can do to make it look good anyway-maybe like some offshoot musket."

Clark Badgett, your knowledge would be greatly appreciated in helping me, and others, turn these flintlocks into at least guns that would look the part in the background, without too close inspection.

Man, I would really like to help you, but to be honest you would most likely have to replace every part to get it somewhat correct depending on what you wished to accomplish.

If you want it to be an FDC, which is what you had in mind when you bought what you have, you won’t get there from where you are at currently.

If you want it to be some form of early French musket. Then you are going to figure out how to lessen the curvature of the butt. French guns really weren’t as curvy as many reproduction offerings offer them, and the progressively got straighter the closer they got to the F&I timeframe.

First thing you need to do is see if you can make that lock look French, which were very graceful and artistic looking even when cheaply made. After that you will need to address that 1766 Cavalry carbine style side plate.

pipascus · 2025-03-15T23:07:33-0400

bud in pa said:
Do yourself a favor and buy some Force 44 solder from Brownell's. It melts with a propane torch and I never have had a sight come off when using it. here's a thought call it a New England fowler. The same basic stock shape, but made with whatever parts were available.

Two great suggestions!
Thank you!

pipascus · 2025-03-15T23:09:46-0400

Clark Badgett said:
Man, I would really like to help you, but to be honest you would most likely have to replace every part to get it somewhat correct depending on what you wished to accomplish.

If you want it to be an FDC, which is what you had in mind when you bought what you have, you won’t get there from where you are at currently.

If you want it to be some form of early French musket. Then you are going to figure out how to lessen the curvature of the butt. French guns really weren’t as curvy as many reproduction offerings offer them, and the progressively got straighter the closer they got to the F&I timeframe.

First thing you need to do is see if you can make that lock look French, which were very graceful and artistic looking even when cheaply made. After that you will need to address that 1766 Cavalry carbine style side plate.

Sounds like a plan: it'll just be some kind of French fowler, or I can call it a "fusil de confusion".
Thank you!
I'm going to have to look at a bunch of pictures and compare.
As far as an accurate Fusil de Chasse, do you have any recommendations kits or made guns?

Brokennock · 2025-03-16T06:28:57-0400

pipascus said:
As far as an accurate Fusil de Chasse, do you have any recommendations kits or made guns?

Talk to @Alexander Efremenko as mentioned earlier.

FlinterNick · 2025-03-16T07:30:09-0400

Clark Badgett said:
Man, I would really like to help you, but to be honest you would most likely have to replace every part to get it somewhat correct depending on what you wished to accomplish.

If you want it to be an FDC, which is what you had in mind when you bought what you have, you won’t get there from where you are at currently.

If you want it to be some form of early French musket. Then you are going to figure out how to lessen the curvature of the butt. French guns really weren’t as curvy as many reproduction offerings offer them, and the progressively got straighter the closer they got to the F&I timeframe.

First thing you need to do is see if you can make that lock look French, which were very graceful and artistic looking even when cheaply made. After that you will need to address that 1766 Cavalry carbine style side plate.

My opinion the stock shape and overall design fits closest to what some would describe as a Hudson Valley Gun or New England gun. Hudson Valley guns have various stock shapes from club butt to Roman nose with massive continental locks. Calibers were 62-85.

The major issue with the Indian made guns is the weight which is a combination of the stock, hardware, and lock. I handled an original Tulle Fusil from a personal collection, it didnt’ weigh more than 7lbs possibly 61/2 lbs. The barrel was extremely light

Clark Badgett · 2025-03-16T11:24:40-0400

pipascus said:
Sounds like a plan: it'll just be some kind of French fowler, or I can call it a "fusil de confusion".
Thank you!
I'm going to have to look at a bunch of pictures and compare.
As far as an accurate Fusil de Chasse, do you have any recommendations kits or made guns?

“Fusil de Confusion” I really like that. Had a good laugh over it.

Unfortunately I don’t know of any current accurate kits available. Pecatonica is the only kit and it falls short of being correct, as did Track’s kit when they offered one. Fortunately the Tulle lock is correct looking externally, as are the FDC parts sold by the various venders. So they can be built if you are so inclined. The only source for correct barrels for most any form of French type trade or hunting gun is Larry Callahan in Michigan.

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