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    short timer

    since you is as good as gone I want dibbs on that 20 guage
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    Forge and Anvil.

    one brick forges are really good for small parts properly set up makes a great bench top set up. the propane torch can make a real difference the one with a hose running from the bottle to the torch head is hotter than the others(bernz-o-matic can't remember the model #)had mine for years super...
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    Forge and Anvil.

    I have used a cheap dollar store hair dryer for my forge for some time now it is tough to beat there is also a book out there called "The 50$ Knife Shop" that has a lot of info on improvised anvils and tools the author is Wayne Goddard a master blade smith. He started out with modest means and...
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    tubing for barrels

    I get the chills just thinking about that sub zero hunting
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    tubing for barrels

    Gentlemen As the fellow who opened this topic I wish to thank all who contributed their time and experience to this subject. Rest assured it is appreciated. Although I did not get all my answers , and didn't learn enough to obtain the understanding I wanted, I did as always on this forum...
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    tubing for barrels

    Jerry, I don't want to say any of the pro or con opinions on this topic are lying. From what I can see everyone is giving his best opinion of what he believes is true. What I wanted when I opened this can-o-worms was not just the awnser, but to understand why. What particular properties of a...
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    tubing for barrels

    I would like to see these failed barrels too, not just the tube barrels but the drilled ones as well. If we are going to learn about one we might as well learn about the other.
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    Images - Scottish Long guns

    The real testament in these guns is that they are not really my thing, but they look so good I caught myself thinking about building one. Pure eye candy.
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    tubing for barrels

    To help my understanding regardless whether we use tube or drilled, the ductility of the steel involved, and it's ability to resist work hardening seem to be very important. Can anyone verify this? Laffindog is right there is a whole lot of generalization and pigeonholing going on. We need facts...
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    tubing for barrels

    Thanks for the numbers men they helped. In an earlier post on this subject I said I wasn't sure I would trust 12L14 because of some posts claiming it was too poor quality for barrels, but here we have several reputable makers using this very material. So I got out the fork I save for eatin...
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    tubing for barrels

    Thanks Keith this should point me towards some answers and, maybe a little understanding of my own.
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    tubing for barrels

    Men it seems that there are tubes out there that should easily handle the loads involved in both of your industries. A look at the types of steels used by reputable barrel makers and, the properties of those steels. Would be very educational to me. Why those properties are important to barrel...
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    tubing for barrels

    Zonie thanks for the figures good numbers are great to have. You are right about tensile strength not equaling the pressure it takes to burst the tube especially in a shock load. Does anyone know what Green Mt. North Star West or any of the others do use?
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    tubing for barrels

    I saw on their website that 4140 was used for military barrels and some pistol barrels but nothing on the rest. 12L14 leaded steel has had problems as a barrel material in the past not sure I would trust it myself. Most barrel makers don't say what they use.
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    tubing for barrels

    Dave I am familiar with the process used to make true seamless and DOM tubing and you are right it is a pretty cool process. I am a boilermaker in the power generation industry and a certified welder so I am familiar with the hands on use of both products. I have no experience with aerospace...
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    tubing for barrels

    I do not advocate the making of "pipe boms" but a test to destruction will yield invaluable data.
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    tubing for barrels

    that's me I am more interested in the actual results than to start an argument but, any test with results worth relying on would have to be a test to destruction. I would also prefer a test involving several pieces (not just one) to get an idea of expected average performance of the material .
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    tubing for barrels

    thank you men for your input and, the benefit of your experience. I did not know that the subject had been discussed on this forum and really chewed to bits on both sides. I have since run a few searches and , read the opinions pro and con. Especially useful where the ones on both sides that...
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    tubing for barrels

    There seems to be some bias against tubing for barrel material I am new to building guns but my work experience has shown quality tubing to be an excellent material with great mechanical properties. what is the opinion of you men and why
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    building an old kit gun

    Ok guys it has been a little while but here is what we done. The oil on the stock did not only coat the wood it permeated it completly in the thinner parts no matter what we did it just came back to the surface. So in a fit of desperation we took two cans of brown kewi boot polish and the...
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