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    Need Advice on a Elk Muzzleloader

    I shot a HUGE 6 X 6 in New Mexico years ago with my .53 Sante Fe Hawken. Patched roundball and 120 grains of FFg,,about 100 yards and that elk went about 10 yards,, the shot was good,,great penetration. Just make sure you're over .50 caliber for a CLEAN kill.
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    TC Black mountain rifle

    2f but I'm going to try 3f next time,,but NO pellets! Also just a quick wet patch after about 20 shots,,easiest stuff to clean I've ever used,,,but don't use it with patched roundballs, groups go all to hell!! I use the same load out of my TC Tree Hawk with 20" twist and it shoots just as well...
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    TC Black mountain rifle

    I know that this is a traditional-only site BUT I hunt everything with percussion rifles. The Black Mountain Magnum can be made to out-shoot any in-line out there. Sometimes I hunt in areas that 200 yard shots are the norm. When that happens, I use the BMM with 120 grains 777, a 240 gr sabot...
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    Effective bear load

    Got a 200 lb black years ago with a 53 RB and 110 grains FFg,,,bear didnt go 5 feet before he rolled up, took out both lungs!
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    How much long for BP deer for you?

    Avon Park Florida, Oct 29-Nov 5 muzzleloader only Nov 12-Jan 22 muzzleloader, pistol, or shotgun so ya know what I'll be using!!! Hillsborough WMA Nov 26-27 muzzleloader Dec 3-4 muzzleloader I have a lot of opportunities to hunt with muzzleloader, I can also hunt hogs during these hunts and...
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    Alabama, special flintlock season, any supporters

    With that early season you will propably see quite a few of those 49.99 in-line shooters looking for a 49.99 flinter.
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    Hunting Equipment

    GPS, Cell Phones, 2-Way radios, tree stands, flashlight, handi-wipes, pee-jug, rubber gloves, etc, all of this for a "traditional hunter", HUH??? I carry a knife, fire starter, water and jerky and a piece of rope (plus my possibles). Hunted all over the USA and Europe for close to 40 years...
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    TC New Englander and Black Mountain Magnum

    Bub,,of course youre right!! My brain was slower than my typing!!! Now my Sante Fe Hawken is a 1 in 66" A SLOW twist!!
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    T/C hawken or Lyman GPR (54 cal)

    For huntin,,,,TC is a lot easier to carry and shoots REAL good otherwise the Lyman is more authentic as a Hawkens,,BUT a lot heavier to lug around the woods all day!!! (been there done that)!!
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    TC New Englander and Black Mountain Magnum

    I own both!! BBM is a slow twist NE (1 in 28) built to handle 150 grains BP and use a musket or #11 cap. Mine will shoot 3 240 grain sabots into 2" at 100 yards with 110 grains of FFg (real BP). The barrels are interchangeable as well as the stocks. I think the Grey Hawk and the Tree Hawk are...
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    Traditional Hunters in Michigan, it's our time...

    TQ, My tongue was in my cheek when I posted, I was curious as to how traditional only muzzleloaders would answer if the option of losing the ability to hunt in an in-line season was brought up. I hunt for my own personal satisfaction, and what other hunters hunt with does not ruin my...
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    Traditional Hunters in Michigan, it's our time...

    TQ, Wouldn't this whole thing be a lot easier and fairer if you split the Muzzleloader season in half, in-line and sidelocks. No sidelocks in the in-line season and no in-lines in the sidelock season. Everyone would be happy than!!! It would be as fair for both,,that way the vendors would be...
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    Distressing Gun Stocks! Ways Of Aging Them?

    I been draggin my Hawken throught the woods for 30 years, it looks plenty aged!!! Use it a lot, just keep huntin and shootin and it will pick up the aged look naturally. I'm with most of the believers, that aging your stuff to look a hundred years old would not look natural!!
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    ML Season Support Options

    I do not support either one, as to the reasons why: I think that defining a traditional season versus a modern muzzleloading threatens to foster the "them and us" syndrome among shooters. There is enough of a problem with the shooting sports and the support of them from the general public. I...
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    Length of your season?

    It's taken me more than a year to figure out the Florida WMA system. I have no private land to hunt on. This year I'm doing 3 muzzleloader weekends in North Hillsborough but I have to get them at 1 a month. That's why I'm doing the Avon Park thing, $135 a year for the full Central Florida...
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    Traditional ML Season Support Base.

    OOMCURT, I have a TC Black Mountain magnum (looks the same as a renegade)shoots 11 cap or musket cap, 1 in 28 twist, will shoot 150 grains of powder, can put primitive sights on it and still shoot WAY past 150 yards accurately with sabots or a little less with conicals, so is this gun allowed in...
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    Traditional ML Season Support Base.

    As I stated in another forum, there is only so much time in a season, with only 2-3 days allowed for muzzleloading per WMA here in Florida, unless you belong to a hunt club or have private land, you would have to take time away from the other in-line hunters, who happen to be the majority! And...
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    Idaho's Definition

    As I read more and more about Idaho "traditional" season, I tend to think (with their current attitude) that you will find that pretty soon you will lose the muzzleloader season altogether. As more and more restrictions are put on the season there will be more hunters not wanting to invest time...
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    Cleaning barrel with scope??

    This is a new one for me. I've been shooting and hunting with traditional for almost 30 years now, always removing the barrel and pumping soapy water through the barrel and soaking it bathtub. well I got modern and bought a T/C Black Mountain and put a Mueller 3-10x with See Thru Kwik Sites on...
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    Any gobblers yet?

    No pictures,,never thought about it,,maybe this year. We can hunt Turkeys here in Florida with just about anything including chasin them down with a knife! Propably a lot of the newcomers just go out and shoot them at 100 yards with a rifle and don't even worry about callin em!!
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