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  1. J

    Indian Imports

    Supposedly Middlesex proofed it with 138 grains 2F and 2 .672cal lead balls. However, if Mr. Ripplinger is correct (see my previous post) then proofing of these drawn over mandrel barrels is all but pointless, as they only fail (if made poorly) after a series of shocks (i.e. repeated firings)...
  2. J

    Indian Imports

    Really? That's interesting. Their older ones didn't have any. I don't know when they changed though. I suppose the next obvious question to determine the maker of the blown musket then (to confirm it) is to ask when was it made. Also I believe I've read that the India guns are done in short...
  3. J

    Indian Imports

    That's what I need someone more knowledgeable than me to answer. I would LIKE to doubt they would send it back unsafe. But as it was SOLD unsafe, one never knows....
  4. J

    Indian Imports

    1816 photos. Here are all the photos I could take. Low quality b/c of my cell camera, but it's all I've got. The original bottom of the breech. Note how the upper timing mark is slightly to the LEFT of the bottom timing mark. The new timing mark on the musket. Note how they more or...
  5. J

    Indian Imports

    I've got the barrel out of the stock, I'll have pictures up soon. It looks like they did a full turn it looks like they went almost one full turn clockwise with the breech. As to the LA proofmarks you are right, they mean nothing. What I mean is on the three vendors 3rd Model Besses, DG and...
  6. J

    Indian Imports

    No the barrel was not cracked. It had some dents and dings, but the problem was the breech plug (I thought) was backed out by my double blank test. Further MVT took measurements all over the gun before and after the proof, and the metal did not expand or change in diameter. The barrel itself is...
  7. J

    Indian Imports

    Duane, you are fully correct. That is why if you look at everywhere I advertise the musket, not only do I mention the problems I have had with it, but also that has a 46 inch barrel and that the lock is problematic. I don't want to just drop the musket on somebody unawares. That is why I have...
  8. J

    Indian Imports

    Umm excuse me? What exactly do you mean by that? If you don't want the gun don't buy it, that's fine I don't care. In fact if I wanted to unload it as you said I would cover up all the problems with it, lie through my teeth about it, and leave it on some sap who doesn't know what they are...
  9. J

    Indian Imports

    I will say though that although the breech plug is tightened, it still fits in the stock fine and the touch hole and barrel are where they should be. I have not fired the musket since though, nor do I intend to. It is probably safe... that is, as safe as any MVT gun, but I myself am done with...
  10. J

    Indian Imports

    That's quite all right and I understand. As I understand, this is how all of their '16s are made and it is "safe, like an original, blah blah" but I don't buy it. But to MVTs stalwart supporters I figure they might like to have this musket. MVT assures me it is safe, and I don't mind providing...
  11. J

    Indian Imports

    Here is a link to a thread on www.cwreenactors.com/forum that has pictures of my gun before MVT fixed it. http://www.cwreenactors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7379 THe tang inletting isn't messed up, but you can see tool marks now from where the breech removal tool marked it. I might take it out...
  12. J

    Indian Imports

    As I stated in the ad, and I thought here, Middlesex has returned the barrel to me and explained the problem was that the breech plug was not correctly tightened, and they have tightened it for me. I have compared it with the photos I took, and the timing marks are different. I do not like...
  13. J

    Indian Imports

    Due to forum rules I can't disclose the price for the gun, but I have created an ad in the marketplace, complete with two pictures of the butt.
  14. J

    Lock problems

    Thanks guys for all the help. When the lock started doing all this (about 3 days after I got it) I put some bore butter on the back of the lock, put it in the stock, then removed it. I found some of the stuff in the lock inlet, so I sanded down were it was. I figured that would help it. It...
  15. J

    Indian Imports

    THought I would update about my MVTC 1816. Turns out the problem was whoever built the dang thing did NOT tighten the breech screw. So my musket was literally a pipebomb waiting to go off. MVTC finally (after almost a month....) got the barrel back to me, and tightened the breech screw. I'm not...
  16. J

    Lock problems

    Well I finally got my MVT 1816 barrel/breech plug sorted out. Turns out the plug was NOT in tight. Glad I caught it, that could have been, well, deadly. I honestly can't believe no one gave it the once over, but it is obvious no one checks them. I can say, however, that water no longer leaks out...
  17. J

    Indian Imports

    Grenadier, you saying that very thing highlighted my major concern with my MVT Model 1816. It was clear at least half the breech plug was drilled out to form a touch hole, I didn't see how it could be safe. Also, I send the barrel on mine in last week, and according to USPS MVTCo received it...
  18. J

    Touchholes in the breechplug on MVT Muskets?

    Hi Mike, Have to say if you are correct about the seam, that doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy at all. And yup, that's a big gap between the tang and stock. Also another reason why I'm less than excited to shoot the musket and that I've all but decided to sell it. When, or I should say if...
  19. J

    Indian Imports

    I'm sending the barrel in today. Pete said he will inspect it and either replace it or fix it. When I get the new barrel in I will inspect it, repeat my oil test (especially if it is a new barrel) and if it doesn't happen again I'll either proof it and keep it, or more than likely sell it. If...
  20. J

    Indian Imports

    Your post lines up with about 80% of what I have read of people who own Pete's Besses and other guns he has had for a long time. I'm almost convinced that either my personal gun or the entire batch of Springfields was defective or faulty. That's good to know then, at least from your guys...
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