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[Rebel]

If this had been a real turkey, instead of one of thos etargets you posted, he'd abeen one dead duck, 'er turkey. The whole shot cup full of shot hit the target right in the neck where i was aiming. Would have taken his head off. Hey, maybe that's the answer to my problem, just shoot shot slugs at them. Still legal, and very deadly. :grin:

 

[Rebel]

If you are planning to use the overpowder and cushion wads in side the paper shot cup you need to use smaller wads, use .28 ga wads. But you still need to use a .20 ga(bore size) overshot card to hold it all in.

 

[gmww]

I was thinking over powder wad, lubed cushion wad, shot, overshot wad. If that don't work, replace cushion wad with shot cup wad of various types.

Also considering using the bore butter felt wads.

 

[Rebel]

Then you do need to get bore size wads. I use the overpower and cushion wad under the paper shot cups instead of putting them inside, so i use all .20 ga wads. Good luck.

 

[Hoyt]

I use the felt 1/8" lubed Ox Yoke wads and roll my post-it note paper just under bore size to where it will slide right on down the barrel just barely touching barrel as it goes. I can get the 20ga. felt wads inside the paper cup. I just manipulate it a little to get started then use the wooden dowel I roll paper on to push the wad to end of cup where it's just barely protruding out to make a good flush fit on the wad of same type I have seated over the powder.
I use two wads..one in cup and one over powder.

 

I've never had any luck with shot cups. I don't think I read what your shot to powder ratio was. More shot than powder should help with hollow centers/blowthru. Have you tried 70 gr. FFG, and 80 or 90 gr. of shot. I don't think harder or softer shot will change pattern that much. Try bumping up you shot at 10 gr. increments, and see what happens. Just a thought Bill

 

[musketman]

BTW, a paper dime roll tube makes great (pre-rolled) shot cups for the 20 guage, penny rolls for the 12 gauge and nickle rolls for the 10 guage...

 

[roundball]

Hard shot has less deformation and flys straighter, less flare off

 

[CoyoteJoe]

Rebel, you're running into the inherent limitation of a cylinder bore. For the density you need on turkeys, 25 yards is about it. Beyond that point the area of the pattern spread increases so rapidly that is takes a great increase in shot load to gain just a small increase in range.
The only way to gain range is by choke boring, but you don't have to go to the extreme of a full choke or "turkey choke" which is good only for that purpose. Even just .005" of choke will more than double the pellet count in the center of the pattern while still leaving a pattern large enough to hit moving targets like grouse and bunnies.
Of course it is not traditional and may endanger the accuracy you're getting with ball, so the traditional solution is just "get close". :grin:

 

[Rebel]

Actually i tried that and found that the dime rollers work fine in a .12 ga but are to big for a .20 ga.

 

[Rebel]

Yep, i think your right Joe. Guess i will just have to get them within 20 yds. Shouldn't be a problem at all. Especially since i don't have any idea how to call. :grin:

 

[gmww]

OK brainstorming here. Have you considered another media? Heavy shot, bismuth,...? :hmm:

 

[Rebel]

No, i can buy three or 4 turkeys in the store already to cook for less than a bag of that stuff. :grin: Just kiddin' but no if i was going to do that i might as well just use the steel shot i already have on hand.

 

[jbrowngunmaker]

Rebel, you might try 80 grains of ffg and equilavant volume of #4 bb's for your turkey shot.

 

[Rebel]

Jackie, I don't have any #4 shot. I am using #5. I do have some #2. Might try that. I am now usinf 80 gr of 2f powder. Still trying to figure out how much shot to use though. She shoots rd ball pretty good though. :thumbsup: