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OK, next question, how many different gauges of shotguns shoot a 1 ounce load???

I know that you can shoot a 1 ounce load in a 12, 16 and 20 guage, what about larger and smaller bores, can they handle a 1 ounce load???

Enlighten me...
 
Well, I may be missing the question, but typical modern shotgun loads don't necessarily map straight across to heavy, strong ML barrels with lower pressures.

Example:
I use 1+1/8oz #6's in a .54cal/.28ga smoothbore, but in the modern shotgun world, .28ga is a 3/4oz load
 
I guess what I need to know is what gauge of gun can shoot a 1 ounce load of shot without too much trouble?
 
Musketman said:
I guess what I need to know is what gauge of gun can shoot a 1 ounce load of shot without too much trouble?
Any guage will handle a 1 ounce load, with the proper work at the pattern board.
 
Mike Brooks said:
Musketman said:
I guess what I need to know is what gauge of gun can shoot a 1 ounce load of shot without too much trouble?
Any guage will handle a 1 ounce load, with the proper work at the pattern board.

Thanks... :thumbsup:
 
thompson center lists 80 grs.powder 7/8 ounce of shot for .56 renegade.I think that is a 26 bore?
 
I shoot a one ounce load of buckshoy out of my dragoon pistol. I've shot one ounce loads and more out of 12 gauge, 20 gauge and a 28 gauge smoothrifle. A one ounce load would be considered an 'average' load I would think ...not overly heavy and not light .... I use one ounce for rabbits and clays, and 1 1/4 oz.'s for pheasants.
Ohio Rusty
 
My renegade .56 smoothbore (.555) shoots 1oz #7.5 over 70 grains powder pretty well.
Good Luck,
Taylor in Texas
 
With a ML, there's no reason why you can't shoot a 1oz. charge from any guage from about 28 and larger - it's entirely up to you what you put down the barrel (well, for a light load like that, anyway). If you want decent patterns, make sure to keep the powder charge about as light (I have found that too heavy a charge in proportion to shot gives a widely scattered pattern).
 
I would use as a guide the largest conical bullet available for a given bore size even the smaler bores are over an OZ. the reason modern guns are restricted is the shell volume of the smaller bores restricts the amount of shot unless you make a very long chamber...
 
Just wondering what your recipe is for the 56 cal. smoothbore. Do you use shotcups or fiber wads for those 1 oz. loads? Do you use the same wad over the shot that you use over the powder like it shows in the TC manual?
 
I copied this, long ago, into a collection of conversion charts having to do with ML shotguns.

POWDER MEASURE SETTINGS TO THROW OUNCES OF BIRD SHOT:
50 grain setting = 3/4 ounce of shot
60 grain setting = 7/8 ounce of shot
70 grain setting = 1 once of shot
80 grain setting = 1 1/8 ounce of shot
90 grain setting = 1 1/4 ounce of shot
100 grain setting = 1 3/8 ounce of shot
110 grain setting = 1 1/2 ounce of shot
120 grain setting = 1 5/8 ounce of shot

If the chart is correct, and I've used it with no problems, then a powder measure set to throw 70 grains of powder by volume will throw 1 oz of shot.

I'd think, without proof, that any gun that would handle a 70 grain powder load and a 1 oz conical would be ok.

It's the load I use in my 12 ga Trapper when the wife shoots it but YMMV.

GrayBear
 
Admins: Can we make Greybear's post (just above) into a sticky at the top of this forum?
 
i would wait on the perminate post of that until it was double checked and listed more completely what was being stated..maybe in a beginners handbook lisiting all the cautions and etc to loading a muzzeloader.. there are many types of shots out there these days, and the post doesnt list the type of shot hes using.. also in a measure with the same setting, number 9 shot can ,, wiegh more than bb for instance exspeially in a skinny measure. it depends on how the shot and measure line up inside.. i think the correct way to do this is to weigh aproximately 3-5 throws from your measure and use that for the weight.. ive always used 72 grains of shot for one ounce... as a guidline its fine and close enough as loads are to be worked up from an under charge.. i guess my point is that loaders who are asking this type of basic questions need alot of more info before they start loading thier new (inherited) gun.. this could, in some instance, lead one to assume that they can put 90 grains powder and 90 grains equivielent shot in old bessie if one is to start reading simple directions.. most modern guns can handle this but old rusty with loose parts and other problems may not be a good idea..especially if the load isnt down properly, or double loaded.. if were going to put loading instructions on the forum it needs to be compelte with warnings and etc.. i try to never post loads without warnings bout measing the load lenght with each shot.. im sure i havnet done it all the time or enough times, but its needed as we dont know the experience of the loader... just my 2 cents and im sure others will disagree... dave..
 
To quiet the legal concerns of my esteemed colleagues, let me clarify... the conversion chart is handy. Let's put it at the top of the forum as a sticky. If you want to make your own instead of using this one, go ahead. Share it with us if you want to.

How about posting this part of GreyBeard's post as a sticky:

POWDER MEASURE SETTINGS TO THROW OUNCES OF BIRD SHOT:
50 grain setting = 3/4 ounce of shot
60 grain setting = 7/8 ounce of shot
70 grain setting = 1 once of shot
80 grain setting = 1 1/8 ounce of shot
90 grain setting = 1 1/4 ounce of shot
100 grain setting = 1 3/8 ounce of shot
110 grain setting = 1 1/2 ounce of shot
120 grain setting = 1 5/8 ounce of shot
 
You can't save people from their own stupidity, and you have no legal obligation to try to do so. No one wants some new guy getting hurt, shooting a gun that he has no business shooting, and using too big a load. But the idiot can wander off on his own, without any supervision and blow himself up, and there is nothing any of us can do to help him, or prevent him from doing this.

Publishing this chart as a handy cross reference is a good basic tool, measuring volume for volume.

Now, I tried this with two measures- a dip type powder measure sold for measuring shot, but with this kind of coversion table listed on the side. It works pretty well with #6 shot. Less well with larger shot, and smaller shot. But, then, dippers don't make the most exact powder measures, either.

I then tried it with my adjustable powder measure that I use for my rifle, with its 3/8" tube. As the shot size rose in size, the table is more inaccurate. I surmize that with the narrow tube, the larger pellets have greater gaps as they rub against the sides of the tube, making the measure carry much less shot when loading BB, than when loading #8. At least that is what happened in my testing.

That having been observed, I still like the chart, and will use it. Even in modern shotgun loads, shot in guns with full chokes, you don't get 100% of the pellets on the target at 40 yards. Often, a substantial portion of the shot fails to reach the target at 20 yards. This is particularly true of the small shot sizes, like #8, and #9. So, the fact that this chart gives me fewer pellets in the larger sizes of shot, , and slightly less weight when I use larger shot does not bother me in the least. It is up to me, and not the author of the column or the owners of this site, to do all that testing for me. If I want to know exactly what setting to put my powder measure on to get an exact amount of shot by weight, its my responsibility to do my OWN testing, and make the adjustments.

I second the motion to put the chart in a permanent position here.

It is common knowledge tha guns are dangerous tools. No one has the right to pick one up and try to shoot it unless he first learns what he is doing, regardless of age. If you are old enough, and strong enough to pick up the gun, cock the gun, prime it, and pull the trigger, you are old enough to be responsible for your actions in loading it. I would think this applies to even children 5 years old and up. And, the law says that their parents are always responsible first, for their children's supervision and safety.

I apologize to some of you who think we must bend over backward protecting idiots from themselves. I persoanlly think this is the kind of thinking that is destroying our sport, and the firearms industry. You find no mechanical safeties on 19th century firearms until the end of the century, because everyone understood that the only safety on a gun that works is you! We forgot that lesson, somewhere, and we have had to put up with Product Liability suits as a result for injuries that any moron would know would occur if he continues with his line of behavior. That includes burning yourself if you drop a hot cup of coffee on your lap! Its not McDonald's fault if you drop the cup. You ordered hot coffee- so live with your own stupidity.
 
AZ-Robert said:
How about posting this part of GreyBeard's post as a sticky:

POWDER MEASURE SETTINGS TO THROW OUNCES OF BIRD SHOT:
50 grain setting = 3/4 ounce of shot
60 grain setting = 7/8 ounce of shot
70 grain setting = 1 once of shot
80 grain setting = 1 1/8 ounce of shot
90 grain setting = 1 1/4 ounce of shot
100 grain setting = 1 3/8 ounce of shot
110 grain setting = 1 1/2 ounce of shot
120 grain setting = 1 5/8 ounce of shot

I can do that... :)
 
Hey Musketman if you do, let us know where charts such as these and others will finally reside. Please? :hatsoff:

Edit: nevermind I see it! :rotf:
 
FWIW, that chart was posted in an article on a very comprehensive site about muzzleloaders...I cut and pasted it to my PC several years ago and have used it as published with excellent results for #4, #6's, and #7.5's
 
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