1805-1838 Fur Trapper Era stuff

[tenngun]

Simple felt blanks were transported west. My gut feeling is they would look like the blanks sold by outfiters todaybut we dont know. It would be hard to predict how a metse would feel about wearing a hat unlike his friends and family. The culture was very clanish,
Be mindful that vouager was an emploee of a company that worked the river,a boatman.Different then a trapper. Many vouagers were metis,a few metis were voyagers.

 

[coloradoclyde]

if a voyager was a boatman, what would a french trapper in the great lakes region have been called?

 

[Black Hand]

http://www.ameriquefrancaise.org/en...ppers_of_the_American_Plains_and_Rockies.html

 

[necchi]

if a voyager was a boatman, what would a french trapper in the great lakes region have been called?

Coureur de Bois.
Runner of the Woods.
An independent trapper/trader http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/283288/

 

[coloradoclyde]

Thanks Necchi , I thought it was a Coureur de Bois but wasn’t certain (now if I just knew the proper pronunciation).
Thank you also Black hand looks like I got some reading to do.

 

[coloradoclyde]

Ha! who knows I might learn to speak french after all. http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=coureur des bois
don't forget to turn your sound on

 

[Wes/Tex]

Hey, thanks! My French is like my German and Spanish...know how to order beer and say things to a waitress to get my face slapped! :wink: :rotf: Get past Chevrolet Coupe in French and I'm lost! :haha:

 

[necchi]

Don't forget your Local Library.
Grace Lee Nute did a lot on the voyageur.
A good primer for research, https://www.google.com/search?q=grace+lee+nute&rlz=

 

[Rod Lassey]

Any study of fur trade French language needs to start here:
https://archive.org/details/glossaryofmissis00mcde

Look along the left sidebar, and click on pdf.

Rod

 

[coloradoclyde]

Thanks Necchi, I sample read some and it looks very intersting,going to have to get a copy.
I don't suppose you know a good book about the
Coureur de Bois ?

 

[necchi]

Nothing specific, they just weren't the type to keep journals, just passing mention of independents in many journals and logs of others that worked for the large companies.
After all it was a battle for the market, independents where the enemy.

 

[crockett]

Well, I KNOW a lot of folks don't agree with the Miller artwork but he shows a couple of Metis with just the standard wide brim, wool felt hat. On one such hat it is shown upside down and had two straps- for tying under chin. If you have been in Wyoming you know why. Maybe it should be called Windoming.

 

[tenngun]

I'm a hillbilly from the ozarks but I,ve heard coy like the fish,you'er d bah, rhymhs with ma.

 

[TomWaits]

Just ordered a copy of "The Voyageur" the other night, cost a penny but with shiping, 4 bucks. Cheap entertainment for sure. Looking forward to reading it. Thanks for the tip.
Tom