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One of our club members has an 1842 Harper's Ferry he would like to sell. It's all original smooth bore, no rear sight with lock date 1855. He brought it to one of our meetings ( when we still could have them) for show-and-tell. From what I can remember it was in pretty decent condition.

My question, he's asking $1500 for it, would that be worth pursuing? I think he's pretty firm on the price.
 
One smoothbore disadvantage not usually discussed is that in a prolonged engagement, it was the smoothbore that became heavily fouled and hard to reload due to no lube to keep the fouling soft.

This can be solved by dipping the ball end of the cartridge in lube; however, from what I've read this practice only came about after the adoption of rifle muskets and was not done in the smoothbore era. What I don't know is whether those who still used older smoothbore pieces in battle (say during the American Civil War) adopted this practice at that time, or whether they continued shooting unlubed cartridges. In any case, it's too bad they didn't think to do this back in the 18th and early 19th centuries.
 
One of our club members has an 1842 Harper's Ferry he would like to sell. It's all original smooth bore, no rear sight with lock date 1855. He brought it to one of our meetings ( when we still could have them) for show-and-tell. From what I can remember it was in pretty decent condition.

My question, he's asking $1500 for it, would that be worth pursuing? I think he's pretty firm on the price.
The 9th edition of, "FLAYDERMAN'S GUIDE TO ANTIQUE AMERICAN FIREARMS", says a 1842 U.S. Percussion Musket in "good" condition was worth $950 in 2007. It does not differentiate between the guns built at Harpers Ferry and those made at the Springfield armory.

$950 in 2007 would be worth $1221 in November 2020 because of inflation but because this is a collectible firearm and prices fluctuate depending on the market value, use that number only as a guide. Remember, condition is everything and Flayderman explains what his use of the word, "good" means in the following paragraph:

"Some minor replacement parts; metal smoothly rusted or lightly pitted in places, cleaned or reblued, principle lettering, numerals and design on metal legible, wood refinished, scratched, bruised, or minor cracks repaired, in good working order." He goes on to say, "...if the collector will bear in mind that the euphonious "GOOD" really indicates a fairly well worn specimen, he will be better able to guage value."

In "Fine" condition, the 1842 musket was worth $2750 in 2007. "Fine" condition would have the original finish with the bluing showing light discoloration on metal parts. The original stock finish would be present but aged, without heavy scratches, repairs or cracks.
 
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Short front sights allowed bayonets to be attached.

They also allowed a simplified aiming solution for battle field zeros. Aim at the belt buckle of your target and that round that gets to 20” above Line Of Sight (LOS), or what is called MaxOrd, is still a hit out to considerable range on a man sized target.

This belt buckle hold was used by the US Army in WW2...with an M-1 it yielded a battle zero of 550 yards.

No need to know the range to target or concern yourself with holdover...sights on the belt buckle and...press.
 
Short front sights allowed bayonets to be attached.

They also allowed a simplified aiming solution for battle field zeros. Aim at the belt buckle of your target and that round that gets to 20” above Line Of Sight (LOS), or what is called MaxOrd, is still a hit out to considerable range on a man sized target.

This belt buckle hold was used by the US Army in WW2...with an M-1 it yielded a battle zero of 550 yards.

No need to know the range to target or concern yourself with holdover...sights on the belt buckle and...press.
Not for a smoothbore.
 
While you won't have a longer range than 150 yards, you can make the opposing line of infantry uncomfortable and provide time to reload as the advance continues by a proper cheek weld to the stock. Based on a standard military load (British for Seven Years War) of 120 grains (by the time you have dumped 30 grains from the 150 grain cartridge into the pan and on the ground) of military issue powder by starting firing by files at about 150 yards you will have time for 2 or maybe 3 shots before closing to bayonet distance. Put the comb of the stock by your jaw bone and you have raised the bayonet lug to have a zero of about 150 yards. By your teeth, there is a range of about 50 to 75 yards. After that you will have closed to a distance that the cheek weld doesn't matter.
 
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