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There is no Roman numerals on this 1851. It is in the 2,000 serial range and has GU mark. There is no warning about black powder. What year would his have been made? Pre 60s?
I have to disagree with Zonie just a bit.
A few photos would be in order: left and right side view of the frame and barrel lug. GU was Gregorelli & Uberti who made 1851 Navies for Navy Arms from ~1959-1962 before Aldo Uberti split off from Gregorelli in 1963: Gregorelli had the manufacturing license and Uberti had the factory. Aldo Uberti obtained his manufacturing license in 1963 and that is where we are today. In those days the GU guns most likely had no proof marks or date codes as they were most likely produced for Val Forgett's Navy Arms Company shipped to Val in the US and marked Navy Arms.
Don't take my word for it: Civil War Guns by William B. Edwards (1962) pp 421-427 explains it.
There is also this courtesy of Dennis Russel:
Regards,
Jim
They are worth more than the Uberti marked ones made after 1962. The early ones are collectable and seem to run around $50 to $100 more than a later ones depending on condition. A minty one or very early serial number would bring more from a collector.does anybody no what these early gregorelly/uberti guns are worth
1959 or early 1960.Nit mine but it is just like this one in the link below. Even has the same box. the one I have is in the 2,000 serial range. Any way to know what year?
https://www.riverjunction.com/z-Sol...tion-Navy-Arms-1851-Navy-Revolver_p_2164.html
Super interesting! The birth of the modern percussion revolver era.I have to disagree with Zonie just a bit.
A few photos would be in order: left and right side view of the frame and barrel lug. GU was Gregorelli & Uberti who made 1851 Navies for Navy Arms from ~1959-1962 before Aldo Uberti split off from Gregorelli in 1963: Gregorelli had the manufacturing license and Uberti had the factory. Aldo Uberti obtained his manufacturing license in 1963 and that is where we are today. In those days the GU guns most likely had no proof marks or date codes as they were most likely produced for Val Forgett's Navy Arms Company shipped to Val in the US and marked Navy Arms.
Don't take my word for it: Civil War Guns by William B. Edwards (1962) pp 421-427 explains it.
There is also this courtesy of Dennis Russel:
Regards,
Jim
Never heard of the Gregorelli name! Guess it's because of the early 1962 date! Were they an early partner of Uberti?I just picked up a Gregorelli and Uberti 1861 Police (I believe its a police or pocket). The date stamp says it was made in 1962, but the cylinder has a 79 stamped on the back. Could someone explain what that means? I'm thinking the cylinder was maybe replaced. Thank you.
Gregorelli and Uberti combined to make the first black powder reproduction revolvers for Navy Arms in 1959. Gregorelli had the firearms license to manufacture firearms in Italy. Uberti got their license to manufacture firearms and in 1964 they split and Uberti went solo. After that you will see Navy Arms revolvers with just the Uberti makers mark.Never heard of the Gregorelli name! Guess it's because of the early 1962 date! Were they an early partner of Uberti?
79 does not match the serial at all. BUT, I took it apart and gave it a great cleaning yesterday. The previous owner must not have cleaned it in YEARS! During my cleaning, I notice "79" stamped on almost every major component. So I'm guessing the cylinder is the original which is great news! Here are some pics.The 79 on the breech side of the cylinder might be the last digits of the serial number.
Could you post a pic of your pistol, please?
Because I like to get an idea if and when GU got into making the 1862 Police and the 1849 Pocket.
Thanks.
Long Johns Wolf
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