2f goex powder

[gtkupiec]

Can I use 2ff goex powder in my 1860 Army revolver? 44cal. Would it be the same charge as 3f?

 

[YJake]

Sure can. Performance may vary, but I use 2F and 3F interchangeably in my 1858 depending on what I have with me.

-Jake

 

[Eterry]

I used whatever was available when I had my 1860. I wasn't match shooting, just making it go bang. Usually 3F has higher velocities, in rifles. Same load of 2F should be fine.

 

[gtkupiec]

Thanks

 

[Musketeer]

As noted, you may find reduced velocities compared to 3f (the coarser the granulation of powder, the less "energetic" it is when using the same volume), but there's nothing unsafe about doing so or anything that would prevent it from working, if those are your concerns. Load the same way as with 3f and shoot away.

 

[gtkupiec]

As noted, you may find reduced velocities compared to 3f (the coarser the granulation of powder, the less "energetic" it is when using the same volume), but there's nothing unsafe about doing so or anything that would prevent it from working, if those are your concerns. Load the same way as with 3f and shoot away.

Thanks

 

[ugly old guy]

Can use FFg. For "same load" velocity as FFFg reduce the FFg powder charge by 10 to 15%
Same as the FFFg powder charge will give somewhat higher velocity, at lower pressure.

 

[toot]

if it is black it will go BANG! any grade in a pinch. HECK, a lot of revolver shooters use 4-FG. in the on a regular basis, and no problems!

 

[gtkupiec]

Can use FFg. For "same load" velocity as FFFg reduce the FFg powder charge by 10 to 15%
Same as the FFFg powder charge will give somewhat higher velocity, at lower pressure.

Thanks for the info.

 

[GANGGREEN]

I admit to being a bit dyslexic at times (ongoing issues following a couple of bouts of Lyme disease), but I think you have this backwards. A 10-15% lower charge of FFFg powder will give you the same velocity as the higher FFg charge, but you will see slightly higher pressure with the FFFg. So, for instance, 100 grains of FFg will have roughly the same velocity as 85 grains of FFFg and the FFg charge will have slightly lower pressures. That's not to say that one is necessarily better than the other, you need to decide what your rifle(s) likes (or what you happen to have on hand).

Can use FFg. For "same load" velocity as FFFg reduce the FFg powder charge by 10 to 15%
Same as the FFFg powder charge will give somewhat higher velocity, at lower pressure.

 

[Notchy Bob]

I don't want to hijack the thread, but have any of you fellows tried any of the "Reenactor" type powders in revolvers for live fire? I have a couple cans of the GOEX brand, but haven't gotten around to trying it yet. I was wondering if anyone else might have given it a go.

Much obliged,

Notchy Bob

 

[leadhoarder]

I admit to being a bit dyslexic at times (ongoing issues following a couple of bouts of Lyme disease), but I think you have this backwards. A 10-15% lower charge of FFFg powder will give you the same velocity as the higher FFg charge, but you will see slightly higher pressure with the FFFg. So, for instance, 100 grains of FFg will have roughly the same velocity as 85 grains of FFFg and the FFg charge will have slightly lower pressures. That's not to say that one is necessarily better than the other, you need to decide what your rifle(s) likes (or what you happen to have on hand).

I am a newcomer to shooting gunpowder but I have a good bit of experience handloading the nitrocellulose based stuff. Seeing how the only thing that controls the rate of burn with real gunpowder is the kernel size I can only come up with the conclusion that you are correct.

 

[nkbj]

I don't want to hijack the thread, but have any of you fellows tried any of the "Reenactor" type powders in revolvers for live fire? I have a couple cans of the GOEX brand, but haven't gotten around to trying it yet. I was wondering if anyone else might have given it a go.

Much obliged,

Notchy Bob

I use Jacks Battle as much as anything else.

 

[toot]

black is where it is at.

 

[oldwood]

Black Powder Matters

 

[wb78963]

Over the weekend I tried both FFg (Graf) and FFFg (Du Pont) in a pair of Pietta Marshal five and a half inch barrel revolvers.
15 grains of powder ,a lubed felt wad, .451 ball with the ball just seated on the wad, no compression.
Of course both loads shot just fine, my perception was the recoil of the FFg load was slightly less and perhaps a bit more muzzle flash otherwise it shot just fine.
With the charge increased to 20 grains the FFg recoil was less, the muzzle flash greater than the FFFg. that recoil was very close to unpleasant.
So either one worked nicely for me
YMMV
Respectfully,
Bunk
P.S. I found several cans of some 1970 FFFg Du Pont and am using it up.

 

[gtkupiec]

Over the weekend I tried both FFg (Graf) and FFFg (Du Pont) in a pair of Pietta Marshal five and a half inch barrel revolvers.
15 grains of powder ,a lubed felt wad, .451 ball with the ball just seated on the wad, no compression.
Of course both loads shot just fine, my perception was the recoil of the FFg load was slightly less and perhaps a bit more muzzle flash otherwise it shot just fine.
With the charge increased to 20 grains the FFg recoil was less, the muzzle flash greater than the FFFg. that recoil was very close to unpleasant.
So either one worked nicely for me
YMMV
Respectfully,
Bunk
P.S. I found several cans of some 1970 FFFg Du Pont and am using it up.

OK, Thanks

 

[smoothshooter]

Can I use 2ff goex powder in my 1860 Army revolver? 44cal. Would it be the same charge as 3f?

A few years ago I chronographed full loads of 3F Schutzen and full loads of 2F Schutzen in a Uberti .44 Army reproduction.
The 2F consistently ran about 100 FPS slower than the 3F shooting ball.

 

[wb78963]

Yes with no problems. The recoil is less than with the same volume charge of FFFg I have posted somewhere about this done last week. Load 'em up and let her fly.
Black gunpowder rules!
Bunk

 

[wb78963]

black is where it is at.

smokessomewhatless powder is boring
Real honest Black Gunpowder is just plain fun.
Bunk