I got one of these coming. Anyone have one? Loads? balls size? accuracy? It's a 5 shot cylinder with the loading lever (I believe the 1st model didn't have the lever?)
TY
TY
.31 baby dragoon
- Thread starter azmntman
- Start date
Help Support Muzzleloading Forum:
Have you shot one? Know if they shoot straight? be my 1st "open top" revolver, have only an 1858 and a ROA. Just had to get a small frame when I saw Cynthia's post a while back!
Yeah, mine was an old Replica Arms version from the late 60's, which was why I mentioned checking the chamber diameter. That vintage of Italian replicas usually ran a bit smaller than now. The old Walkers, Dragoons and Armys ran about .447" chambers...now .452" or slightly larger. Cynthia's is actually the M.1862 which was the M.1849 frame which had been milled back to accept a .36 caliber cylinder. The original "Baby Dragoon", or M.1849 was without loading lever but this was soon changed as were various barrel lengths.
CaptainKirk
54 Cal.
- Joined
- Feb 25, 2010
- Messages
- 2,251
- Reaction score
- 892
Here are a few of mine. Someone reamed the chambers oversize so I have to shoot .322 RB's out of it.
Nice lookin, look like the one I got. How accurate are they?
bubba15301
40 Cal.
- Joined
- Apr 12, 2009
- Messages
- 204
- Reaction score
- 0
chambers are most likely .319 or .320
CaptainKirk
54 Cal.
- Joined
- Feb 25, 2010
- Messages
- 2,251
- Reaction score
- 892
Accurate enough, if you are standing 7 yards away. :grin:
IMO, they are accurate enough for fun plinking at 3-15 yards but they don't make good target shooting arms.
It's not that they themselves are not accurate.
I'm sure if they are shot from a Ransom rest they can shoot as accurately as other short barreled Cap & Ball pistols.
The problem (again in my opinion) is the grip is very small making getting a good repeatable hold on them difficult plus they are very light weight.
Their light weight does poorly at dampening out any quivers in your hand and arm.
Looking at the reason they were made and the reason they were so popular is they made dandy short range defense guns that were easy to carry concealed and brought to the table more shots than the Derringers that were popular.
It's not that they themselves are not accurate.
I'm sure if they are shot from a Ransom rest they can shoot as accurately as other short barreled Cap & Ball pistols.
The problem (again in my opinion) is the grip is very small making getting a good repeatable hold on them difficult plus they are very light weight.
Their light weight does poorly at dampening out any quivers in your hand and arm.
Looking at the reason they were made and the reason they were so popular is they made dandy short range defense guns that were easy to carry concealed and brought to the table more shots than the Derringers that were popular.
Current production Ubertis have .319 chambers according to Dixie. I'd believe it - I shot one today with .319 balls and they pretty much exactly fit. I ordered some .323s. Kind of annoying since I have a .319 mold already.
The accuracy was surprisingly good although as expected it hits really high.
The accuracy was surprisingly good although as expected it hits really high.
CaptainKirk
54 Cal.
- Joined
- Feb 25, 2010
- Messages
- 2,251
- Reaction score
- 892
Problem is, .320-.323 moulds are sort of hard to come by.
Got it in today. I believe it will be a fun shooter. Could I try .310 (have some for the crockett) or should I order .315? Thats the closest I see available w/o gettin a mold somewhere.
Looks like a FEF or FEE stamp? what is maker, anyone know?
Looks like a FEF or FEE stamp? what is maker, anyone know?
- Joined
- May 28, 2006
- Messages
- 1,692
- Reaction score
- 15
probably will need .320 ball. You are probably seeing the FIE company stamp....good luck !
CaptainKirk
54 Cal.
- Joined
- Feb 25, 2010
- Messages
- 2,251
- Reaction score
- 892
FIE
FIE
1)Foundation for International Education
2)acronym for Firearms Import & Export: until Nov. 1990 when operation closed in Hialeah, Florida
3)Federation Internationale D'Escrime
#1 is education group in London
#2 is black powder importer 1960's thru 1980's
#3 is French based fencing society
ppsssttt...answer is #2! :rotf:
1)Foundation for International Education
2)acronym for Firearms Import & Export: until Nov. 1990 when operation closed in Hialeah, Florida
3)Federation Internationale D'Escrime
#1 is education group in London
#2 is black powder importer 1960's thru 1980's
#3 is French based fencing society
ppsssttt...answer is #2! :rotf:
Wow, this gun is in as new condition for a 30yr+ piece!
Now I gotta find some ammo, .30 for the crockett drops nicely in and out of the cylinder. Is there a website for FIE that will say what size ball to use?
Now I gotta find some ammo, .30 for the crockett drops nicely in and out of the cylinder. Is there a website for FIE that will say what size ball to use?
try a .320 or .325 ball
In case you are interested, the 1848 Colt Baby Dragoon was the first revolver Colt offered to the general public following the failure of the Patersons.
The Baby Dragoon was first made in 1847 making them highly popular with many of the 49'rs.
Their light weight, small size and 5 shot cylinders made them ideal for the long trip across the US or around the "Horn".
A total of around 15,000 of them were produced.
The 1849 Pocket Revolver was basically an improved Baby Dragoon but its production and sales did not begin until 1850 so it missed the initial Gold Rush to California.
Even so, the small 1849 was a popular pistol with over 300,000 being made between 1850 and 1873.
The Baby Dragoon was first made in 1847 making them highly popular with many of the 49'rs.
Their light weight, small size and 5 shot cylinders made them ideal for the long trip across the US or around the "Horn".
A total of around 15,000 of them were produced.
The 1849 Pocket Revolver was basically an improved Baby Dragoon but its production and sales did not begin until 1850 so it missed the initial Gold Rush to California.
Even so, the small 1849 was a popular pistol with over 300,000 being made between 1850 and 1873.
very interested! Thanks for the info! It is about one of the coolest lil guns I now own. I paid $175.00 and it truly looks unfired.
Similar threads
