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Do any of you guys use or ever have used or know of someone whome uses a .36 or .40 for small game?
I am often tempted to get a second hand capper for small game but the smallest I see are .45.

I imagine popping out a steady ball would be fine over say 40yds, any imputs?

Britsmoothy.
 
Britsmoothy said:
Do any of you guys use or ever have used or know of someone whome uses a .36 or .40 for small game?

Britsmoothy.

Yes, I have had and used.

Are you asking about shot or just round ball.



Tinker2
 
Mine measures .375 and I use a .360 ball/ticking patch. Found my groups tightened up considerably as I pushed the ball faster. You are in effect throwing a knuckleball.
R
 
I had months of arguing with the licencing dept over a rifle for deer and vermin Duke!
There is no written law against it but they won't budge!
They would say it is not humane on the grounds it don't use a missile designed to expand so I asked them to tell me what the expanding material is in the construction of an expanding missile! Lead they said :shake:
Then they said there is no quick follow up shot. To which I informed them all the deer I have shot gave no oppurtunity for a second shot because they dropped rite there or ran of!
Then they just quoted the home office guidlines to firearms licensing but I said it has no basis in law. Still no dice.
I then asked how come a patched ball rifle is unsatisfactory in their opinion (as that is all it is) but a M/L shotgun is perfectly fine what with less velocity and just the same slow follow up shot/s. Still no dice.
They are full of manure basically.
Stupid country :cursing:

That was four years ago, it is time I asked again now but a smoothbore is as usefull :wink:

Britsmoothy.
 
You can use an air rifle or BP shotgun or rabbits, but not a small cal PRB rifle????

:hmm:
I would apply again if I was you.
 
Have either of you thought about talking to a Solicitor about this problem? If the bureaucrats are making it up as they go along, perhaps a British court would put a stop to that arrogance. Your arguments are very logical, and if, as you say, there is no legal reason for them to bar the use of a PRB and either a rifle or smoothbore for hunting, then a Judge might just ask the bureacracy to explain itself.
 
PV, if I had expendable cash to gamble thats where it would go my friend :thumbsup:

Oh and Duke, I know what I am allowed to use thanks but what about what I want to use? I work for me not the state and big bro's rules, countless others do that. I guess it makes them feel comfortable :hatsoff:
And stuff the anti's, pampering around them is how we got this stupid in the first place!

Britsmoothy.
 
I think of them like garden guns.
My small smooth bores, shooting round balls, were fun little
rabbit/small game guns.

Mine were front sight/bead only so my range was short.
Quart cans at 50 yd’s yes, pop cans no.

Tinker2
 
Yes.

I always use a patch in my smaller smooth bores when
shooting round balls.
One of them ( a cap lock ) I shot a lot, .34 caliber round ball
15 thousands patch 10 to 15 gr. black powder.

I have not looked for a small smooth bore barrel for a while
but I would think they could be had. You going to build one?

What size/caliber are you looking for?


Tinker
 
I would like a 36cal long smoothrifle, but I doubt I will ever find one in this god for-saken country :shake:
 
That sounds like something that TVM could build for you. Actually there are several builders who will build as much or as little of a gun for you as you ask, so you can finish it yourself, if you desire.

I don't remember the last time I saw a full stock .36 caliber rifle being manufactured by any company and for sale. This has always been a custom build item. Dixie did sell their Tennessee rifle in .32, but not in .36 about 25 years ago. I know, because I was looking for a .36 then, and even called Dixie about it.

Dr. Sam Fadala wrote a piece about a custom made .36 fullstock rifle he used when hunting rabbits. The gun was made by Dale Storey, I believe. That is the gun that inspired me to go looking for a .36, but I wanted one in flintlock.

Check the Gun Auction lines, as well as the sales post here on the forum, and on several of the suppliers' site, ( Like Track of The Wolf)for both new and used guns in this caliber and style. Every once in awhile, some one parts with one of these.

If you are looking for a .36 caliber smoothrifle, this will definitely be a custom made proposition.
 
32 or 36 in flint now LOL. I applied for a BP permit so I may aswell get a flinter.
Who could build me a cheap-ish rifle that I could finish my self?
 
Contact Matt Avant at TVM. ( Tennessee Valley Muzzleloaders)
http://www.avsia.com/tvm/

He has kits which he can make up in any caliber, or barrel length, and finish as much of the gun as you want.

Also, contact Tip Curtis, at [email protected]. Tip has a well stocked shop with guns, and usually very good prices. His Shop is located in Cross Plains, Tennessee.

I would recommend that you have the company install the breechplug, and the vent liner, sights, and barrel hangers. You may also want them to install the buttplate, and cut the lock mortise for the lock chosen. They usually shape the stock, leaving extra wood for you to sand down to final shape and size, but cut the barrel mortise, and the ramrod hole for you. Its up to you how much more work you want to pay them to do. They can install the ramrod pipes, fit the lock, trigger(s), and trigger guard to the stock, too. And if you want a patch box, they can do that, also.

The more work you have them do, the higher the cost, of course. Guns sold " in the white" are guns that have all the parts put together, but none of the metal parts, or the stock has been finished, leaving lots of sanding and scraping to be done on the stock, and then finishing work on both metal and wood to be done by you.

The nice thing about a .36 caliber rifle is that you can buy 000 buckshot, and its the right size to be used as a PRB. Buckshot usually costs much less, than buying cast, or swaged balls. Ideally, you will buy a mold and cast your own. When My club did public demonstrations, we often had as many people standing around our ball caster demonstration watching him do the work, and asking a ton of questions, while ignoring the firing line where other members were doing trick shooting.

( That is not unusual. With TV, many people have seen famous trick shot artists break small targets, or flying targets with a single bullet. They haven't seen some of the more mundane work like ball casting. I helped another member erect his Cheyenne style Tipi one year at a park in a small town celebrating its 150th year anniversary, and we had people show up with their lawn chairs JUST to watch us put up that lodge. Then, when we took it down later, they gathered around to watch us do that! We invited them to come on in the lodge and find out how it felt, but very few of the folks accepted our invitation. Go figure.)
 
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We do get .45 smooths for sale in reproductions offered over here and err well I do have .440 mold :hmm:
One day I will take a ride up to Yorkshire to shop called Henry Krank and take a look :hatsoff:

Britsmoothy.
 
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