4 shooters worth buying?

[Morgana918]

I have a question for the lot:

I have been confronted with 4 rifles for purchase, and 3 of them are public sale the other is private party so I can hold out. Ar eany of these worth the time?

#1. TC New Englander, 54 cal fired once and put away clean. still 99.999% what is a good $$? is it a worth while shooter?

#2. CVA Bobcat 50 cal. Appears to be 80% or better.

#3. TC 45 cal Hawken, 28" browned barrel. Looks like there may be some minor pittin' in the grooves toward the muzzle and has some handling marks. otherwise, double triggers and all the TC hawken brass. The trigger guard is brass as well.

#4. Looks to be a TC renegade? but in 54cal with 26" blued barrel. has a couple dings in the wood but the bore looks clean. has no brass like the above but does have double triggers, why I think its a renegade.

I have yet to run a patch thru 2-4, will do tomorrow. I am seeking advice on $$ and if they are worth the $$. Long term I am looking for a few for me and one for my daught to learn with, which is why I am asking about the Bobcat. I am new to BP (other that what I shot as BSA summer camps as a teen) and looking to get my first rifle(s). I am considering grabbing all of them if the wife says I can!

THanks

 

[swquiro]

BPW
I can only comment on the New Englander. If it is as clean as you
say, Id go as high as $200, maybe a tad more. I have had three over the years and the last I will never part with. Very capable of decent accuracy, and a joy to carry in the deer woods. As an added bonus, you can get a 12ga. barrel for birds and other small game. Available from Fox Ridge and occasionally from the auction sites. No longer in production, and most used ones have their share of dings and scratches, and possibly pits in the barrel, and go for $100 to $175. While not PC, they are a highly versatile gun.
Let us know what you buy.

 

[Zonie]

The following are based on the Third Ed of Blue Book of Modern Black Powder Values somewhat adjusted by me based on your description.
Although this book is a few years old, I think the price ranges I am giving are fair, at least in my part of the Country.
#1 250-300
#2 65-90
#3 300-375
#4 245-290

zonie

 

[Morgana918]

:thumbsup: thanks to both of you for your input. I am considering making offers on all three TC's to see where it gets me. I know for fact the TC NE has been fired once as it belongs to a family friend and it is still in the original grease on teh exterior.

As for the others I will take your $$ with me to the sale point and see what I can do. I wil lkeep you al posted and by all means the rest o you viewers, please weigh in. While PC is of some concern I am a "beginner" and I just need to start hunting and shooting BP before I worry about PC too much. I do live in WA state where wet takes its toll, especially during Elk season.

 

[boar]

I have bought 3 Bobcats at Flea Markets,first one was 50. second one 65. third one 75. All in decent shape. Killed my deer last year with one of them. Dilly

 

[50cal.cliff]

I don't know alot about TC or CVA from personal experience! Having said that what I do know about TC they seem to have a good reputation and a great Customer Service.
If it were my money (which it ain't) I would think about #1 for myself and #3 for your Daughter, as the 45 would probably have less kick for her. Don't think a 45 isn't a hunter, cause if you place the shot and know your weapon a 22 can take game! Its just most kids get kicked and then its hard to keep them interested.
:surrender: As far as being PC, I say get into it for the price you can afford. Mine would not be truly PC but it has let me get into the sport and if the PC police don't run me off! :rotf: :rotf: I am already thinking about a custom that would knock the PC'ers socks off! That will be down the road and when I get the money saved!
Best of luck to you, cause like I said it ain't my money! :wink:

 

Zonie is pretty close but perhaps a little high, based on the area I'm in. At the current shows in this area I can get any of the TC's for from $175 to @250. I buy Bobcats for $50 to $65 in very good condition. Good luck.
Mark

 

[J.D.]

The TC's are quality guns, so you won't go wrong there, assuming that they were all well cared for. The one you choose depends on what you plan to do with it. Hunt? Plink? targets?

If you plan to hunt with it, IMHO, the larger calibers will probably be the best choice. Large calibers work as well for plinking as small ones. Recoil in large caliber Ml rifles is not an issue since you can vary the powder charge to fit you immediate purpose.

As to historical accuracy, there are few, if any production guns that even resemble original rifles, and TC is one of them. TC products are a figment of a 1960's production managers imagination.

That said, TC products are probably the highest quality production guns on the market and are accepted at nearly all period events.

 

[xxgrampa]

greetings bpw,

imho,

#3, 150 (kit gun) 175 (factory gun)

#4, 150

in the last year, bought 7 tc's. the prices posted are the top prices paid for almost perfect guns.

..ttfn..grampa..

 

[Morgana918]

:grin: Well, after having gone through the paces in my mind I went for the TC 45. While the bobcat was in fair condition at best and the TC 54 was in solid shape for the barrel, the bobcat felt like a BB gun size wise and the 54 didn't have the LOP I feel comfortable with nor did it "point" well for me.

The 45 just "fit". And the price was good ($175). Stock was in top shape and the barrel will clean up great, mostly dusty and some small spots of superficial rust upon further examination in the bore. I plan to hunt and plink with it. 40 or 45 is the minimum for deer in WA state but that is fine with me. I plan to obtain another for larger game once I get going with this one.

As for the TC NE I am still waiting to hear back from the private seller. It has been 4 days since I left them a message about its purchase.

Thank you all for your input. I truely do appreciate it. It has helped me work out some of the mental road blocks.

Cheers!
And for those that are wondering BPW stands for Black Powder and Whiskey... always loved both, just got started with one of 'em :hatsoff: