.44 Cal RBs

[grimmpaul1]

I Bought Colt Walker from JQuigley last week and shot it yesterday, works perfectly and very accurate. I was surprised at how accurate with .451 rbs. I have a stupid question I got a ROA that was seized up that I got back in service. Both areb.44 he had a box of Hornaday .433 RBs. I'm new at this, what would take these? They roll out of both .44s I have.

 

[Phil Coffins]

Those would be for a rifle because they go into the bore with a patch.

 

[akroguy]

These are .44 caliber weapons so naturally, .433 would roll right out.

.451 and/or .454 RB's are pretty much a given for .44 caliber C&B revolvers. I've used .454 in all .44 revolvers I've owned with great results.

 

[grimmpaul1]

That's what I thought but it's marked .44, the rifle explanation makes sense embarrassed I didn't know that. Thanks

 

[Rifleman1776]

marked .44,

What it is marked is a starting point. With factory guns you can never be sure what will work best. Keep in mind a ball must be shaved slightly when seated into the chamber and then it gets forced through the forcing cone down to bore size. What works best for you is the size you need.

 

[Mousegunguy]

I believe Ruger recommends a .457 round ball for the ROA.

 

[grimmpaul1]

Thanks guys as usual I have learned a lot from you all.

 

[nick_1]

My.44 pedersoli le page pistol shoots.433 patched.

 

[CaptainKirk]

I believe Ruger recommends a .457 round ball for the ROA.

That is correct. .457 for the ROAs

 

[Smokerr]

In reality the Black Powder pistols labeled as 44, are in fact 45 caliber and then you add a bit for chamber sealing (ie prevent chain fires though there is disagreement on what the best protection from a chain fire is).

That gets back to the conventions of when those guns were built originally and how we would address calibers today (least we forget a .357/38 special are both the same caliber. A .41 magnum is a true .410 where a 44 magnum is not. My 7.5 Swiss rifles are actually 30 caliber (7.62 as it were). So you go with the reality.

The Cartridge conversion for those guns are 45 colt.

Current reproductions (as best I know) recommend .454 round balls. Having checked the seal (band width) at least mine has a nice .147 wide band. There can be chambers that are not sized right or oval so the shaved lead ring is not a given for a good seal (I go with the seal aspect but that is my take)

The ROA specifies a .457 round ball. I will test that when mine arrives and see what the width of the band is.

The Ameri San Paola (ASP) New Model Army my wife gave me came with .457 balls, it does not shave lead, it has a tapered cahmbers so the .457 goes in easily and then squeezes to a .250 wide band.

I believe its bore is also wider as you shoot a .457 ball in the Pietta NMA I have and the ASP NMA, the Pietta is 100 fps slower.

Put in the recommended .454 and its on par with the ASP velocity wise for the same load.

 

[OldRust]

What comes to mind for the .433 round balls are the Numrich Arms H&A underhammer rifles.

Thanks,
O.R.

 

[Smokerr]

You have to read the manual if you have it or research it. Black Powder guns are hugely variable in what you feed them and that is why you have all those different sized balls (and some conicals).

Too loose in a single loader just has a non accurate trajectory.

If you don't have a seal on your Black Powder revolver, you can have a chain fire, grease is not an answer as it can get blown out by the blast or droop with heat (some of the thick mixes can avoid that, but then you have to ensure there is no gap in the heavy compound)

My take is a properly sealing bullet that gives you a decent band and wads are the best setup (I use the wads to space the round close to the end of the chamber).