45 RB for deer???

[Stumpkiller]

Well, last year I was allowed:

One antlerless with EITHER bow or M/L season (spike < 3")

One either sex with EITHER bow or M/L season (can have antlers)

One antlered deer (anything over a 3" spike) in regular season

Two antlerless deer in regular OR bow OR M/L season - DMU permits valid only in a specific area.

The last ones are lottery system permits (residents only, I believe) within management units depending on how badly they want the herd thinned. Some require two or three hunters to team up for each, other areas give out two or three per hunter. Until two years ago they were only valid in regular season.

So, the most I could take would have been five. With just the two of us, I stop at two or three - whatever it takes to fill the freezer.

Bows, and now M/L, can be used during regular season. Bow season is five weeks before and one week after regular. M'L is the week after regular. Regular season is "the Monday following the third Saturday in November until the second Tuesday in December. God, only a New York polititian could come up with that one - I swear. Season openers and durations variey by regions (5) and the permit quotas are further sub-divided by DMU's (about 40). The southern part of the state didn't allow Sunday hunting until maybe 15 years ago. That was a bummer.

I got a syllabus in Dorcheater County, Maryland last year and calculated a hunter could take 17 deer! I was pretty excited until I saw one on a truck's tailgate. Weighed maybe 60 pounds, but had a respectable rack. A full-growed NY buck goes around 200 lbs field dressed, up to 250 in the Adirondacks.

 

[GobblerKnob]

Stumpy ~ My good friend, Mike Wheeler, and I have discussed the folly of shotgun - v- rifle deer hunting in NYS at length. I can't understand why it's OK to shoot woodchucks with a rifle, shoot deer for crop damage with a rifle, but hunt them during the established deer season with a shotgun only. I even understand you can use a T/C handgun to hunt deer with. What's more, just across that invisible line on the ground, weun's down here can use a rifle as big as you want to shoot deer. Just doesn't make any sense to us... ::
Rick

 

[Stumpkiller]

You is preachin to the choir, G-nob.

I've been hunting the same three adjoining farmer's fields and woodlots for 25 years. I used to pop woodchucks with a .270 WIN in THE VERY SAME spot of ground I could only use a rifled slug to harvest a deer. I guess one authentic reason is that there are 99% more folks in the woods for those three weeks than any other pert of the year - some who do shoot movement. I've had at least three incedents where slugs passed within a few feet of me. Gets the juices flowing, I'll tell ye! There is plenty of local lore of the "City Folk" from New York City/New Jersey who drive up Route 17 and then start shooting. Cows, goats, horses, dogs, movement, rustling, etc, etc. :youcrazy: Now, they bring ATV's so they can be dangerous to themselves and others over a much larger radius. :shocking: At least you can hear them coming and keep a tree between you.

The opening of regular season to muzzleloaders is the event that tipped me far enough to finally order a "nice" flint rifle and sell my musket (which was allowed in shotgun w/single lead projectile regular season). Used to was by the time I got through bow and regular season I'd used up my tags. One week at the very tail end of all that shootin wasn't much incentive to "save" a buck tag for a M/L rifle hunt. With vacation used up and no Sunday hunting that put all your eggs in one Saturday.

(Mike Wheeler - Sounds familiar - If he's NYSDEC ask him if he remembers the "kid" at the Sugermans Photo Counter who used to oogle at his deer pictures in the let 70's).

 

[GobblerKnob]

That Mike Wheeler would be one and the same! He just finished up a shooting investigation that occurred on 17 near Nichols. I guy hunting woodchucks shot at one and missed. The bullet hit a man driving on 17. Everyone thought there was a sniper on the loose! :shocking:
He used to tease me somthing fierce about hunting turkeys with my ML shotgun. Somebody talked him into buying a muzzleloader so he could extend his deer season. What does he do? He buys an in-line! EGADS! :crackup:

 

[GobblerKnob]

I guess all those years of using a shotgun does have some benefits. We don't often grow 'em this big in PA! I killed him on Mike's property in Tioga Center on the opening day, 2002. :shocking:

 

[leadball]

Gobblerknob, any modifications you had to make with the cabela's Blue ridge? My father in law's seems to shoot without any modifications and he denies a misfire yet except when he had oil on the frizzen. He has not opened the vent hole any bigger or anything like that. That gun was mine at one time. I am having some regrets on giving it to him but I'll have an excuse now to get one over the winter :cry: He shoots well with PRB and I regret any Wisconsin deer that dares venture in his line of sight. I just wish Wi had a better ml season. In minnesota they have a 16 day either sex season

 

[Stumpkiller]

Well! Small world. Is that Tioga Center, NY or PA. I hunt near the village of Lounsberry, just east of Tioga Center NY in the town of Nichols! I'm covering your back just north of you! Know where Smith Creek Road is - Dick Steven's place & the Berry's & more Berry's farms are? I park my butt on Cotton-Hanlon's stumps just to the South.

Don't know who was in charge of the namin of these places. We've got duplicated Tioga Centers & Nichols within 15 miles or so and Tioga County PA almost touches Tioga County NY.

 

[roundball]

Beautiful deer G-Knob!

 

[GobblerKnob]

Leadball ~ The only modification I made was to increase the size of the hole in the vent liner. I thought my ignition time was a little slow, so I did that and it fixed the hangfires. Other than that, that's all I did.

 

[GobblerKnob]

That would be Tioga Center, NY, just west of Lounsberry and across the Susquehanna. I know Lounsberry & Nichols pretty well. I used to hunt turkeys on that sidehill overlooking 17, adjacent to the truck stop. Ate many a good breakfast there.
It is a small world. I'm not familiar with the name of that farm, but I sure do recognize Cotton-Hanlon!
If you ever want to get together for a little shootin' or BS'n, I'm just downstream from ye! :thumbsup:
Rick

 

[GobblerKnob]

Thank you, Roundball. If I never kill another buck, I will die a happy deer hunter! :: I always said I'd never kill another buck smaller than my biggest one to date. Well, when I got him, I certainly raised the bar! I hope that I can get one that big in PA some day.
Rick

 

[Stumpkiller]

He's a beaut! I occasionally see deer like that when I'm bowhunting that area - at about 80 yards. :cry: Come gun season they turn into squirrels. Evil magic.

I blew a broadside shot on a similar one at 20 yards - flew the arrow right over his back - total brain fart. I just stood there in disbelief as he looked IN THE DIRECTION THE ARROW WENT, pinballing through the brush, and then trotted off. A shot I've made 50,000 times in my backyard. There was thick stuff all around - but I had a clear shot; can't blame a deflection. I think it was a case of having the antlers in my mind and not THE SPOT. Haven't seen one as nice in a dozen years. *sigh*.

Sounds like a plan to burn some powder together. I'd like that, even though this list would then know I don't sight in rifles, I pattern them. :shake:

 

[GregK]

Nice deer GK. Makes me homesick for PA and NY. Left those states in the early 90's now in Illinois.

 

So 750k2,,
,,,Is there anything else you need too know about the .45 cal round ball for Deer?

 

[Stumpkiller]

:results:

 

[leadball]

GK, did you enlarge the vent hole yourself or did you take it to a gunsmith? My father in law told me that he has had a few hangfires and would like to enlarge the vent hole. How much did you enlarge it to? I plan on ordering another blue ridge in 50 cal after the hunting season. It is a good sparker with that big flint.

 

Whoa, nice rack, but that's the ugliest deer I ever saw?!
Tell me how'd you get 'em dressed in that orange hat and vest? :haha: :haha: :haha:
Honestly I hope that beauty is hanging on your wall. That is the once in a lifetime buck. Get another like that and your beating all the odds.
What did he score?
My bow kill is an 11 point 168 and 5/8ths or something close to that after drying time.
He green scored 171 and would'a made Boone and Crockett.
Instead I settled for Ohio Big Buck.
The hell of it is I got my two deer a few years ago with the bow, both on the same day, actually in 5 minutes and decided to spend the rest of the week trying for a bow kill yote.
I sat in my tree stand using a rabbit squeal when TWO bucks bigger than your's and mine togther came running up to see what was making the noise!
Swear they would have gone over 200 each! And I could'nt shoot! Believe me I thought about it, but what's the sense taking a trophy illegal and you can never talk about it!
Ohhhhhhhh the price of a conscience! :curse:

 

[GobblerKnob]

I did enlarge it myself, but I can't remember what size bit I used. I'll measure it ane get back to you...