.45 TC Hawken Information

[Colonel_LD]

I put together a .45 Hawken TC kit back in ‘85 and used it for target shooting and deer hunting. Its a great rifle and well past time, after many years, to get back into the hobby.

I’m looking for information about loads for it such as the chart below and accessibility these days to the pre-lubed Maxi balls I used many years ago.

Thanks a bunch!

Colonel_LD

 

[Indy Durtdigger]

I don't have time to do it this morning and hopefully I don't forget but I've got TC books with the load data you seek. As for the Maxi-balls, on a quick search this is the only site I know is legit and order from. https://rmcoxyoke.com/product/maxi-balls/

 

[Indy Durtdigger]

I don't have time to do it this morning and hopefully I don't forget but I've got TC books with the load data you seek. As for the Maxi-balls, on a quick search this is the only site I know is legit and order from. https://rmcoxyoke.com/product/maxi-balls/

Don't know how I managed to quote my own post? need more coffee

 

[longcruise]

I'm confused . Is it that you are looking for 45 data similar to your OP?

 

[Loyalist Dave]

I'm confused . Is it that you are looking for 45 data similar to your OP?

He is looking for somebody who can publish the page for loads from an old TC manual. The problem is a lot of the online manuals are .50

LD

 

[longcruise]

He is looking for somebody who can publish the page for loads from an old TC manual. The problem is a lot of the online manuals are .50

LD

Yes, I looked up the manual I downloaded and it refers only to the 50. Can't figure why they would have done that.

I think I have my 1974 version of the manual. If I can find it, I'll screenshot the 45 data.

 

[longcruise]

Didn't find the 74 version but found another with the info. Here's screen shots of 45 data.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

I put together a .45 Hawken TC kit back in ‘85 and used it for target shooting and deer hunting. Its a great rifle and well past time, after many years, to get back into the hobby.

I’m looking for information about loads for it such as the chart below and accessibility these days to the pre-lubed Maxi balls I used many years ago.

Thanks a bunch!

Colonel_LDView attachment 360094

Here's what I dug up. NOTE there is different data for Seneca and Cherokee model rifles :

You can find the full generic muzzleloader manual from TC here but you have to subscribe to easily read it TC Manual

LD

 

[longcruise]

It's wise to take their accuracy and velocity information with a grain of salt. Accuracy is going to vary a lot from gun to gun and with patching and powder manufacturer. Range time with testing on paper for accuracy results and if it matters, a chronograph for velocities.

I have in the past chronographed a lot of load variables and the results are not generally predicted by any tables from any source.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

It's wise to take their accuracy and velocity information with a grain of salt. Accuracy is going to vary a lot from gun to gun and with patching and powder manufacturer. Range time with testing on paper for accuracy results and if it matters, a chronograph for velocities.

I have in the past chronographed a lot of load variables and the results are not generally predicted by any tables from any source.

Interesting that from two obviously different printings of the manuals the data stayed the same.
I doubt they ever retested the rifle loads.
They don't list the brand of powder, and this was long before Swiss or Scheutzen
LD

 

[longcruise]

Interesting that from two obviously different printings of the manuals the data stayed the same.
I doubt they ever retested the rifle loads.
They don't list the brand of powder, and this was long before Swiss or Scheutzen
LD

Yes, and the biggest variable that I found in chronographing loads was powder.

I tested goex, elephant, grafs, swiss, pyrodex and maybe some that I don't recall. I have that data on the desktop. If anyone is interested in seeing it I can dig it out.