.58 cal Harpers ferry

[CoyoteJoe]

Bending the cock does not solve the issue with this lock. If it did one could accomplish the same thing by just putting a wedge under the back of the flint. The real problem is the "arch" of the flint does not intersect the face of the frizzen in a proper slicing motion as needed to produce reliable sparks and good flint life.
I know it is often said that with a good lock the flint should point into the center of the pan but that is just a very simple explaination of the geometry of the lock and bending the hammer or putting a wedge under the rear of the flint just doesn't address the real issue which is the sweep of the flint relative to the face of the frizzen. A "basher" is still a basher regardless of the angle of the flint when it bashes or where it points when it comes to rest.

 

[Stubert]

It works better than the origianal, The locks on pedersoli's are all crap.

 

[CoyoteJoe]

That's a pretty broad indictment of Pedersoli and not true in my experience. The lock on my Blue Ridge flint is as good as any I've ever handled and better than many U.S. made flintlocks.
The Harper's Ferry lock is a replica of the original and shares the original design defects. It's hardly a fault of Pedersoli if the replica works as poorly as the original.

 

[mykeal]

CoyoteJoe, or anyone else for that matter:

Are there any good quality US locks that could replace the Pedersoli lock (assuming a small to moderate amount of woodworking)?

 

[CoyoteJoe]

Not that I know of, it's not such a common gun as to be worth tooling up to produce a replacement.

 

[nkbj]

And is there someone who can and will perform the modifications to optimize the existing Pedersoli lock?

 

[CoyoteJoe]

You might try L.C. Rice but I don't have his contact info.

 

[raszpla]

1.)poor geometry of the team - and frizen Kock!
2.)carburet you frizen!!!
:hatsoff:

 

[mykeal]

The OP's lock and mine are remarkably different:

especially where the main spring is fixed to the tumbler. This is the lock that was on the gun when I got it (used, of course) but it has the same marks as the OP's.

Apparently Pedersoli made some changes at some point.

My lock is no Siler, but it does spark well and reliably. Here's the cock when the flint contacts the frizzen face:

The frizzen face looks clean with no evidence of chatter; it appears the flint is scraping well from near the top all the way down.

 

[Badgerfarm]

Try Lodgewood for a spring if you haven't already, S&S might have one that would work or Taylors might be able to order you one if it's a Pedersoli. Is it just me or is the tail of the upper part of the spring missing with the cradle that holds it in place? I don't know anything about flintlocks but that looks like it would solve the problem. Is the OP's spring pinned in place on the upper leg of the spring?

 

[shortstart]

Nope the guys at log cabin didn't have one and i called Dixie and they didn't have one. They said they probably wouldn't be getting one in anytime soon. So i think I'm out of luck.

You can go to “Flintlocks Inc.” he is reseller for Pedersoli parts. Somewhat pricy but he usually has what you need. I just got a frizzen spring for a HRpers Ferry. $30.00!

 

[Badgerfarm]

Try Lodgewood instead of Log Cabin shop. You can find the link on the N-SSA home page under links and then sutlers.

 

[jdw276]

Try Lodgewood instead of Log Cabin shop. You can find the link on the N-SSA home page under links and then sutlers.

What did i miss? This is an 8 year old thread?

 

[Badgerfarm]

I must have missed it too. I didn't realize it was that old. I Rip Van Winkle sometimes and wake up just long enough to make a few posts before going back to sleep. LOL I need to learn to look at the dates before opening my mouth.

 

[nkbj]

Does L&R perhaps have a lock that will fit?

 

[nkbj]

Just sent L&R an email to inquire.

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

Just sent L&R an email to inquire.

You can try VTI on line. They carry a lot of Pedersoli parts and complete locks.

 

[Stantheman86]

I just need to ask , or make a general statement as to why Pedersoli makes the rifled .58 Flint Harpers Ferry but a .54 Smoothbore percussion conversion version of the same pistol......

A percussion .58 rifled Harper's Ferry would definitely be something cool.

 

[hawkeye2]

I just need to ask , or make a general statement as to why Pedersoli makes the rifled .58 Flint Harpers Ferry but a .54 Smoothbore percussion conversion version of the same pistol......

They began manufacture of the pistol in .58 many many years ago using the same tooling as for The Zoauve since no one was making a .54 back then and it was a cost saving devise. The percussion conversion is in the correct caliber, .54 smoothbore, to take advantage of the new N-SSA smoothbore single shot matches and to be historically correct.

 

[Stantheman86]

Excellent, thank you for the answer