58 good and bad

[Africa58double]

Trust rate is 1-48”….. So I’m willing to bet it should stabilize the REAL. My PBR shoots exceptionally well with only 75gr of FFg .

Im thinking the REAL will take a good bit more tho.

 

[Africa58double]

^^^

like to see the results of the REAL bullet in your rifle. what is the twist rate?

 

[SPQR70AD]

Trust rate is 1-48”….. So I’m willing to bet it should stabilize the REAL. My PBR shoots exceptionally well with only 75gr of FFg .

Im thinking the REAL will take a good bit more tho.

1x48 worked good in my rifle. like to hear your results

 

[Africa58double]

This week I’ll check PRB zero at 50-70 yards and see also how the REAL Bullet works

 

[Africa58double]

Slugged bore to see fit. Rite barrel tighter. So if two Real bullets… Should shoot Left barrel 1st.

 

[William Lincoln]

Mass Matters on Bigger Game.

 

[Griz44Mag]

It looks like you have a hole in the bottom of your REAL.
How about a detail picture?

 

[User_Dan]

We're subject to police inspections without notice here, guns and ammo must be locked at all times. A friend lost his licence for having a full shotgun belt sitting on instead of in the safe and for having a rusted out, missing bolt 303 that wasn't functional but that he hadn't registered.

That sounds absolutely horrible and full on police state. Time for a revolt over there

 

[Josephg]

I have a .58 Hawken rifle with a Green Mountain barrel. I really love that rifle. Super accurate. 50 grains of powder it is not unpleasant to shoot.

 

[Autie1876]

I've been keeping an eye out as well as proactively speaking with some people e.g. Jim chambers, about a rifled flintlock.

I would never part with my rocky mountain .54 caplock so I thought the next logical thing would be to get a 58 (I also own an inline and caplock 50). I just wanted a point of difference so I didn't have two of the same cal and end up using just one like I do with my 50s.

But what are the real pros and cons to a .58 over a .54? I've had the opportunity to buy a couple of .54s and have passed thus far.

I mostly hunt red deer which for arguments sake let's call elk size, I like the idea of having a good size ball for taking them on quartering to shots and such as I like to roar them in during the rut meaning that often frontal or near frontal shots are common.

I just want it to shoot point of aim at 100 yards and to be able to shoot minute of whitetail at that range.

Thinking logically I can see that a 58 would likely hit a bit harder but also drop a bit quicker. Recoil doesn't really bother me.

Any other considerations to swing me one way or another?

I've been keeping an eye out as well as proactively speaking with some people e.g. Jim chambers, about a rifled flintlock.

I would never part with my rocky mountain .54 caplock so I thought the next logical thing would be to get a 58 (I also own an inline and caplock 50). I just wanted a point of difference so I didn't have two of the same cal and end up using just one like I do with my 50s.

But what are the real pros and cons to a .58 over a .54? I've had the opportunity to buy a couple of .54s and have passed thus far.

I mostly hunt red deer which for arguments sake let's call elk size, I like the idea of having a good size ball for taking them on quartering to shots and such as I like to roar them in during the rut meaning that often frontal or near frontal shots are common.

I just want it to shoot point of aim at 100 yards and to be able to shoot minute of whitetail at that range.

Thinking logically I can see that a 58 would likely hit a bit harder but also drop a bit quicker. Recoil doesn't really bother me.

Any other considerations to swing me one way or another?

 

[Eddie Southgate]

Given the choice between a .54 and a .58 I would take the .58 . If I already owned the same gun in a .54 I would save my money for something else , not that much difference between the two in my opinion .

 

[Josephg]

Given the choice between a .54 and a .58 I would take the .58 . If I already owned the same gun in a .54 I would save my money for something else , not that much difference between the two in my opinion .

4, exactly 4.

 

[stikshooter]

I got a .58 caliber 1x48 twist hawken and do not bother with patches and balls. The rifle shoots real good with the Lee R.E.A.L. bullet. easy to cast and load

And better with a felt under the base , much much more better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/Ed

 

[waksupi]

I would just step up to a .62 if you are planning on red deer. Smaller calibers will work fine, but big holes bleed better.

 

[SPQR70AD]

And better with a felt under the base , much much more better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/Ed

maybe it would but my rifle is plenty accurate with no felt wad. it is so easy to load with the bullet on the powder charge do not want to get into felt thickness which lube to use etc

 

[stikshooter]

maybe it would but my rifle is plenty accurate with no felt wad. it is so easy to load with the bullet on the powder charge do not want to get into felt thickness which lube to use etc

No lube standard felt from Dura felt and make your own , as plenty accurate is in the eyes of the trigger puller and until you try o well !

 

[SPQR70AD]

No lube standard felt from Dura felt and make your own , as plenty accurate is in the eyes of the trigger puller and until you try o well !

maybe I will give it a try

 

[Eddie Southgate]

4, exactly 4.

Correction : .040

 

[Autie1876]

I own a 62 cal smootbore flintlock, but I just don't see it getting the range to do much big game hunting. L

We don't treestand hunt here, we either spot and stalk or most commonly stalk, which for some reason you fellas call still hunting?

I could see if I was in a treestand and had a deer pass really close the smoothy would be handy.

I mostly just want a rifled flintlock and want to make sure it gets used. I could go the other way and get a 50 cal but that's legally not going to be enough for a deer here (220 grain min projectile). Not that I've heard of anyone ever being pulled up on bullet weight.

 

[Autie1876]

I shoot a Green River Rifle Works 58 fullstock flintlock rifle, that I've owned for 35 years or so. My son uses a 54 Lyman we both load almost the exact powder load & i actually load less than Jeremiah does. My 58 has a lot more knock down power though. I have never had to track a deer & I only had to shoot one buck twice. I hit him in the neck but an inch or so low, it still knocked him off his feet & shocked him enough i reloaded and finished it. It was a huge whitetail too. If you have a choice buy the 58 that handles round ball exclusive. You won't be sorry you did