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I have a friend who built a 1.0" cal. rifle for a customer who planned to hunt grizzlies with it.
I wouldn't even want to be around when that goes off, much less at the kickin' end.
Jaegers have been mentioned. I have an article that was published in the American Rifleman in 1971 written by a Jaeger collector/ expert. He says the big bore legend for Jaegers is just that, mostly myth. Some were very large, no doubt, but they were in a small minority. I personally saw and original once that had to be, at least, 1.0" bore, looked more like a sewer pipe and was memorable to say the least. The writer said most were in the .50 to .54 range.
[BTW: I saved the article digitaly. Anyone wants to see it just PT me and I'll email to you.}
Original poster asked about wind resistance for 100 yard accuracy. Unless you are shooting in a big gale while hunting, that is not a big consideration. Bench rest guys will use large bores to help gain those tenths or hundredths of an inch advantage in windy conditions.
And, as alluded to, with muzzle loaders, even those devil child's inlines, over 100 yards your projectile is almost falling downwards onto your target, not at it. I believe, if you want to hunt over 100 yards, get one of those scoped suppository things.
And, these days, another consideration that might favor a smaller caliber is simply the availablility and cost of powder and lead. Sad, but we might all be back to parlour rifles before too long.
 
1. What are you hunting? Shots over about 70 yards with open sights are crazy unless you do a lot of practice, and few people shoot .62s a lot with hunting loads. You are not shooting a 'modern' rifle and need to live within that fact.

2. Why a .62 at all? A .54 with about 220 grain balls will kill anything this side of an elephant, at reasonable ranges, and be fun to shoot, too.

3. A jaeger style rifle is like having a modern rifle stock, it'll handle the recoil well. Ditto for an EARLY Kentucky or English style, tho both of these have longer barrels.

(I shoot a .75 caliber semimiitary musket so big doesn't bother me, as such)
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Flintlock, round ball and black powder - Life is sweet.

Notice on powder container -"Be certain no embers are smoldering in the barrel before loading", so I ALWAYS blow down the barrel after firing. Its easier than wet swabbing each time.
 
AlanA, this may be the article you're looking for,
"Mortimer Flintlock, More than a flash in the pan"
Rifle Magazine p.42
#214, Vol. 36, No.4,
July-August 2004

I agree, nothing hits like a big RB and they will penetrate too. Recently sent a heat treated .735 through 9" of white oak with 140 grains 2F...but BP shotshells belong in non-muzzleloading.
 
I think the article AlanA is referring to is in "Blackpowder Hunting" summer issue 1998. There is a passage in an article by Seyfried titled "English Rifles and Forsythe Barrels".
 
My eyes are not good at all anymore but I've still managed to kill at least three deer at 75,95 and 100+ yards. 75 yards shouldn't be a problem for the vast majority of shooters on the forum.

I'm a barrel blower, too. It just makes sense to clear the bore of smoke and any embers that might still be smoldering. :thumbsup:
 
This thread got me thinking :hmm:
It seems to be all about PRB, wich if fine with me, but would it be too wrong to have a ,say, .58 made up with a really fast twist to shoot 500-600 grains slugs at around 1800-2000 fps?
With the correct geometry should be shootable ,kind of a .375HH magnum, and should bring down some really big stuff.You can even have a second barrel with a normal twist for RB.
It could be made PC and just change the barrel for those really nasty squirrels :rotf:
 
Forgive my reluctance to point a gun barrel at my head, even knowing I just pulled the trigger and the load fired successfully. I have not nor would I ever recommend anyone blow down the barrel of a gun. Have you ever noticed what happens to a pile of embers when you blow on them? Then you want to pour black powder on top of that? I think at the range I'll just swab the bore and reload. In the field I'll take my chances and cold reload, or just administer the coup-de-gras (if needed) with my pistol. To each his own though.
 
Of course if your like me and on a restricted budget, a satisfactorally heavy .62 smoothbore will do it all. Any animal large enough to need a ball that size to bring it down is generally hunted (with a muzzleloader anyway) at ranges of under 75yds. Tests have proven that balls .58 and up show little to no effect on accuracy out to as far as 100yds,(assuming of course the ball is good and round and has no occlusions) Remembering of course the larger than normal vital areas of these larger animals, Little effect on accuracy, and the power needed to punch through thick hides and bone, closer is better. A good shot never needs a follow up, and when the animal can bite back it's especially important. Then after the bear ect. is on the ground, dump in a fistfull of shot and knock down a couple Tarmigan or a tree rat or two for dinner.
 
Actually, 500-600gr minies seem to shoot just fine in a 1:72" twist. I'm guessing that minimizing the hollow base and bumping the velocity would still let it shoot w/ heavier charges.

It is going to kick the holy snot out of you, though. A .58 PRB is pretty much enough. A .62 is "just to be sure". A 500gr round ball of ~.70 cal moving at 2000 wouldn't kick any harder, and would probably kill better.

October Country bases there .69 heavy rifle ballistics on a 460ish grain PRB driven to 2000 fps by 225 grains of FFg. I would not hesitate to shoot anything on earth with that. (Well, no more than I would normally hesitate to shoot it at all, anyway. 8) )
 
My .62 flinter has a 57" twist.
A .58 minie mold would be easy to alter to make it a maxie with a small hollow base... nahhh!
 
Roy said:
Here is what the .62 rifle I built has done so far.. http://www.roystroh.com/custommuzzleloaders104.html[/quote]

Roy's traveling rifle, Runaround Sue, is a real sweetheart! I know because I wrote chapter 2. :grin:

Sue didn't stay around anywhere near as long as I would have liked. The only load I played with was 100 grains of 2F. It was quite accurate out to 125 yards and I believe 120 would have done even better due to the flatter trajectory.
My longest range session was about 35 or 40 shots. Didn't hurt a bit. If daylight had lasted longer I would have shot another 35-40.
In fact I was so impressed with Roy's .62 rifle that I just might have to have him build one just like it for me sometime in the future. Not just yet tho... got a smoothbore in the works. :)
 
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Does anyone have a copy of this?

"English rifles & Forsythe barrels" - Blackpowder Hunting Summer 1998.

Thanks
 
If you want acc at 100 yds practice practice practice . With a enough you can hit a beer can (empty of course) with a sling shot at 100yds. So why not a rifle.just my 02¢
 
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