*%#@%%#@*** !!!

[Rebel]

Wrong. If they say Wonder PATCHES and Wonder ticking, they are NOT Wonder Wads. The wads are a felt lubed wad about 3/8" thick, and bore size.

 

[hobbles]

*%#@%%#@*** !!!! well, so much for track of the wolf, we talked bout wonder wads when I orderd .015 and .018. *%#@%%#@*** 0k, now it's time to do somethin,, I have some "brillo strip&shine" soap free steel wool balls here,, do you think it would hurt or help to run it down the NEW barrel I got from T/C custom shop?? I really don't want to wait till next week to find out bout wonder wads. if you would do me a favor and look at page one on this thread and sea what started this thread goin I would really be thankfull, (I was goin to say apprishate but can't remember how to spell it) and again *%#@%%#@***

 

[hobbles]

0k all, I just talked to track of the wolf and found out the orderin prob, was me, I got what I orderd and now under what wonder wads are,, I'm goin with the steel wool ,, I know I'm new at this and I thank you for your help, On the bright side, if the steel wool don't work,,, I have one heck of a good lookin club,,

 

Hobbles,.... I realize yore probably tired of hear'n it by now,.... but, go to WalMart and git 1/2 yard of ther thick 100% cotton pillow ticking,.... take it home and wash it,.... hang it up to dry,.... rip it into 1 1/4" strips,.... put the end of a "strip" in yore mouth,.... "slobber" it up purty good,.... take the "slobbered part" and lay it across yore muzzle,.... place a ball on it,.... "short-start" the ball,.... cut the excess ticking off with a knife,.... ram the ball home,.... and fire.

Check yore patchs, and if they are a "burnt frazzled mess",.... then think about lap'n the bore!!

I think yore problem, can be cured with a "total expense" of around $3.00 and some free "spit"!! :haha:

YMHS
rollingb

 

[Stumpkiller]

It shouldn't hurt if you take it easy. I prefer the synthetic metal polishing pads (hardware store) that are less abrasive and don't fall apart leaving little "rust crumbs" like steel wool does.

Toothpaste makes a nice very mild abrasive, too. A double patch on a jag with a good slobbering of toothpaste and 60 strokes may make a difference. If you can find some: J-B Paste is designed for polishing rifle bores and is very mild on the metal.

 

[hobbles]

rollingb
No sir, I am not tired of hearin it, I do need the info, and I thank you all for all that I have got,, I am steel woolin it now to sea ifin it makes any diff, I don't think the wool can hurt to much, it's not grabbin hard, just lightly,, I'm kinda feelin I am buggin you all too much, I got a lot of info, now it's time to use it and give you all a break,, and that was said in friend ship,, I do owe you all a lot for your time,,, THANKS,,,,

 

[hobbles]

tooth paste,, Stumpkiller your a genesis, I will do that now,,,,,

 

[hobbles]

Stumpkiller
usein tooth paste has a good feel to it, not rough,, but very fine,, I am lookin forward to tryin it out tomorrow now, I think 60 times in and out will be enought for a start,, it does feel like it is bittin in the barrel better then the wool was,,,,

 

[Darkhorse]

Hobbles,
First off, have you thought about calling TC about this before you start honing that barrel?
Second, I think you are definitely cutting your patches. Seen those tell tale tears too many times from new barrels.
Third, you worry too much.

Its always more fun to shoot out a rough spot than polish.

Did anyone mention going to the fabric store and buying real honest to goodness pillow ticking? Oh yeah, I remember about 5 or 6 times so far.
The reason being; I have tried and still use those precut wonder patches and even precut wonder lubed ticking patches and they just aint the same thing as the real thing. They don't have the integrity like real pillow ticking.
But, seeing as the real thing is .0175 thick it will probably still cut as long as your barrels got sharp spots. But it shouldn't blow holes through the patch. In which case have you ever thought about WONDER WADS? :crackup:
What the WW will do in your case is allow the cut patch to act like a sabot (ugly, blasphemous word that) and hold the ball while the WW seals the bore from beneath. Thereby giving you accuracy even with a cut patch.

I would be real careful of hornets and wasps nests. Not only does it smolder but sometimes the inhabitants don't take kindly to giving up their homes. :cry:

After 300 or 400 shots your rough spots should be about gone by now. Have you thought about calling TC?

 

[hobbles]

no, I have not thought bout callin T/C, they are still sales people, where you all ain't, I figure you will tell me what you think if I like it or not,, just made more sence (to me ) to ask you guys,

 

[nit wit]

T/C's # is (603)332-2333,9-4 pm.
Nit Wit :RO:

 

[roundball]

Its always more fun to shoot out a rough spot than polish.

:agree:
I have a houseful of TC Hawkens, some with standard TC barrels, and several with round ball barrels from Fox Ridge...never felt the need to take steel wool to a brand new $190 barrel built by Thompson / Center.

IMHO, I wouldn't jump in and start undertaking any "custom maintenance activities" on a brand new barrel from a company with a pretty solid reputation for the quality of their barrels.

Barrels are usually either perfect right out of the box or will settle down after a few boxes of patched balls are fired through them...go enjoy 2-3 boxes of balls through that TC barrel, using TC .018" pillow ticking and if it's still doing that using TC products in a TC barrel, send it back and they'll replace it no charge...start leaving evidence of screwing around with it and you may void the warranty.
:redthumb: :imo: :m2c:

 

[Zonie]

I don't think running a steel wool type pad or some tooth paste will void the warrenty. It's doubtful its effects will be even visible, but it can take the sharp edge off of the rifleing edges. (Just think of a knife with a dull edge. It looks sharp, but will hardly cut cold butter.)

I will say that after getting these new patches, it will be interesting to see how it shoots!

As others have said, the ultimate patch material is the 100 percent cotton pillow ticking from Wal-Mart. It's the stuff with the blue (or red) stripes and feels about the same thickness as the pockets in a pair of new Levi's. Maybe a tad thicker but not very much.

I have had problems with some commercial patches blowing or burning thru. I've always felt it was because they were pre-greased and were old.

Let us know how things "come out". ::

 

[BLAHMAN]

Gosh Roundball, how many rounds is that? I always stroke the bore of any new barrel with steel wool. I think that shooting 2-3 boxes of roundball is essentially the same thing, or am I just hoping it is?

I wonder, now that I've re-read several post on this subject if there might be a crown problem? Can it be that maybe when the crown was being made or cut the die could have been dull?

I'm just tossin' out ideas.

What do you think?

 

[roundball]

I don't think running a steel wool type pad or some tooth paste will void the warrenty.

I don't either by itself...HOWEVER...my statement was:

"...start leaving evidence of screwing around with it and you may void the warranty..."

...meaning there's always the chance when undertaking "home remedies", &%$#@ can happen and tamper marks could accidently be made...IMO, seems like an unnecessary risk when TC would take it back if it's defective

 

[hobbles]

Mornin all,, I got to agree with roundball bout t/c's warranty, I do know that is is good, I bought a rear sight from them, it was junk when they sent it to me, I sent it back, they fixed it, I got a front optic sight from them for my old barrel, the optic dot was too small, I called them, they said there is nothin they could do bout it, that's the way there all made, in the mean time I had the custom shop put a optic front sight on the new barrel, that one was bigger, they don't even know they are sellin two different size sights, I am sure I could of sent that back, I might have to send the barrel back, I'll sea today, but I got a lot of good info from here, So I am happy with 1 out of 4, I have a small hair line crack in the stock and was thinkin maybe I should buy nother one, (it was used when I got it) If I do I wonder if I could have it sent to the repair shop before they send it to me ? I really do like the look and feel of the t/c Hawken, I know I will be happy with it after I get done re-doin it all.

 

[roundball]

Mornin all,, I got to agree with roundball bout t/c's warranty, I do know that is is good, I bought a rear sight from them, it was junk when they sent it to me, I sent it back, they fixed it, I got a front optic sight from them for my old barrel, the optic dot was too small, I called them, they said there is nothin they could do bout it, that's the way there all made, in the mean time I had the custom shop put a optic front sight on the new barrel, that one was bigger, they don't even know they are sellin two different size sights, I am sure I could of sent that back, I might have to send the barrel back, I'll sea today, but I got a lot of good info from here, So I am happy with 1 out of 4, I have a small hair line crack in the stock and was thinkin maybe I should buy nother one, (it was used when I got it) If I do I wonder if I could have it sent to the repair shop before they send it to me ? I really do like the look and feel of the t/c Hawken, I know I will be happy with it after I get done re-doin it all.

FYI...TC honors their lifetime warranty on the product, regardless if original owner or not, and they'll replace the stock assembly if it's cracked

 

[hobbles]

""TC honors their lifetime warranty on the product, regardless if original owner or not""

That I didn't know, guess I'm just havin a run of bad luck with em, I'll get over it,,, life goes on,,

 

Well might as well get my 2 cents worth in here on this subject. Some time ago I asked this forum the same question "Blown patches' and went through this whole rigamorle. Stellwooling my bore did stop my blown patch problem, however I NEVER again had accuracy of any sort.
This was not due to the steel wool treatment, after sluging the bore I was able to see that my Green Mountian barrel had several miscut lands and groves. The barrel had shot fine initally but only for about a year and then started the blown patch thing. There was no fix!!! I am now having this barrel recut to the next larger caliber. It is my belief that treating the simptoms will get you no-where, you must find the problem and fix that.

 

[hobbles]

Mornin kenny cooper
I guess I was thinkin/hopin the problem might be a crown problem (sharp edges), I am tryin to find out what the real problem is then go from there, I got to start some where, sorry to hear bout your barrel, My barrel looks fine to me, but I don't have the greatest eyes around any more, I am waitin for the neighbors to wake up, then I am goin out back to Patch Hill (that's what my lady call's it,, don't know why) and try mine out,,