A new high price for a T/C Hawken

[Hawk78]

35.00 to 38.00? I only wish! Even with the exchange rate and the import taxes I find it too costly up here. However last summer I dabbled in making my own BP. It actually turned out rather well.

I am thinking very hard about making some myself. Can you provide some advice on videos and/or literature for me to learn how to?

 

[Trooper]

I am thinking very hard about making some myself. Can you provide some advice on videos and/or literature for me to learn how to?

I can but not on this website. My email is [email protected] send me a message and I’ll contact you via those means.

 

[bubba.50]

I am thinking very hard about making some myself. Can you provide some advice on videos and/or literature for me to learn how to?

If you’re not a member already, sign up over at castboolits dot com. Last time I checked there was something like 240+ pages of posts on rolling your own. And nobody’s been blown up or sued. There’s also a bunch of pages on where to find ingredients.

 

[Trooper]

If you’re not a member already, sign up over at castboolits dot com. Last time I checked there was something like 240+ pages of posts on rolling your own. And nobody’s been blown up or sued. There’s also a bunch of pages on where to find ingredients.

That’s a great idea! I found all the info I needed off of YouTube. I’m a member of cast boolets as well but I haven’t visited that site for well over three years.

 

[Tasbay]

I watched one here go at auction for $1400U.S$ a few months back. It was a standard T/C Hawken caplock in .50cal.

 

[Trooper]

I watched one here go at auction for $1400U.S$ a few months back. It was a standard T/C Hawken caplock in .50cal.

I never heard of a TC going for that high price. The most I’ve seen them go for is maybe 700.00CDN off canadiangunutz.com

 

[tom_in_vt]

Prices of everything are crazy these days. That being said, I don’t think I’d pay over $1000 for a T/C.

 

[Trooper]

Prices of everything are crazy these days. That being said, I don’t think I’d pay over $1000 for a T/C.

I have to agree with you there. Last summer I lucked into a pristine TC Hawken .50 cal. I had a Baikal/ Remington O/U 12 ga that was a safe queen. The gent wanted my 12 very badly, and I drooled over that Hawken! We swapped and that made three. One for me, one for my wife and one for my stepson.
We’re a happy family.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

There's no such thing as presentation grade wood for any T/C stock. The stocks were made at a mill in Perry, KS. Although they had a few stocks gorgeous beyond belief hanging on the walls, no effort was made to grade any other stocks. They all shipped as just ordinary stocks, beauties and plain Jane's all going out unsorted. If a seller wants to say a stock is presentation grade I guess they can, but the source never made that distinction.

Well I don't think the rifle was a "stock" TC Hawken, but simply had a presentation grade stock. Track of the Wolf used to sell pre-carved stocks for TC Hawkens, with very nice figure in the wood. So it very likely was something like that, and after-market restocking of the factory parts. I could see if it was a really nice stock, and the metal finish was like new, a price of $500-$600.., but $1100.00 ??? Likely the buyer thinks they have something "collectable", and one day it may be such, OR perhaps the buyer was in some part of the world where a BP rifle is needed to comply with laws or are rare as hens' teeth.

LD

 

[Daveboone]

The past August a friend of mine offered his late eighties .50 cal Renegade for 150.oo, with accessories. At the time I couldnt see the need for it, but knew I better not pass it up. It is in near new condition with a perfect bore. I am not real pleased with how it shoots, but I intend to engineer a peep sight for it and I will clean up the triggers. That is my first .50 cal. so it will be fun to play with.

 

[user 49399]

All this has me thinking I should sell my Thompson Center Hawken with ”presentation grade patina”.

 

[Trooper]

The past August a friend of mine offered his late eighties .50 cal Renegade for 150.oo, with accessories. At the time I couldnt see the need for it, but knew I better not pass it up. It is in near new condition with a perfect bore. I am not real pleased with how it shoots, but I intend to engineer a peep sight for it and I will clean up the triggers. That is my first .50 cal. so it will be fun to play with.

I found that the Renegade barrel twist rate (1 in 48”) isn’t perfect for either minie or roundball. If you can, order a green mountain barrel with a twist rate of 1 in 66”.
You’ll be very happy with that barrel and your groups, provided your shooting PRBs. I found that 80 gns of FFG triple 7 seems to be the magic formula for my .54 cal. All I need to really tighten up my groups is to locate a tang peep site for my baby. My eyes aren’t what they used to be.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

My first TC Hawken was a POS. Frizzen stopped sparking during the first range trip. The flint chopped right through the case hardening. Took TC a few weeks to send a replacement and I missed part of the Flintlock season. Second frizzen lasted less than a pound of powder. I half soled the frizzen with a piece of clock spring and gave the gun to my brother and bought an Investarms Flintlock. gun's aethestics were not as nice but at least it didn't constantly eat frizzens.

 

[FishDFly]

From reading here a long time, the early TC Hawken flint locks were a problem. The frizzens were lacking in quality and the **** geometry was at the wrong angle which led to short frizzen life.

The later locks were and improvement.

Seems that I read the Lyman and TC locks were interchangeable. Some folks were swapping locks to get reliability. Know you can get Lyman locks from OxYoke.

 

[FishDFly]

There's no such thing as presentation grade wood for any T/C stock. The stocks were made at a mill in Perry, KS. Although they had a few stocks gorgeous beyond belief hanging on the walls, no effort was made to grade any other stocks. They all shipped as just ordinary stocks, beauties and plain Jane's all going out unsorted. If a seller wants to say a stock is presentation grade I guess they can, but the source never made that distinction.

Actually there were 2 different types (grades) of TC rifles. There was the run of the mill rifles which were shipped. Then there was the rifles that came out of the custom shop.

I bought a Seneca .32 from a member here. The owner reported that the barrel "rifling" was knackered and it's accuracy was poor. He sent the rifle to Ed Rayl and had it re-bored to .40. It had what I would call presentation wood, it was on par with Pecatonica stocks. The bluing on it was the quality that you see on Browning modern guns, it was quality bluing. It had the early peep sight and the ram rod was brass, the original ram rod had been broken.

I have a TC Cleland, they were only available from the Custom shop, it has never been shot.

 

[3 trees]

Bought two, about a year and a half ago, one pretty worn but early production and one like new. 200$ for the pair

 

[FishDFly]

I never find deals like that.

 

[nkbj]

Replacement parts are equally going up, tho' some of the offerings surely aren't being sold at the starting bids. Add on stupid high "shipping and handling" charges, too. Mostly my projects are only short a few screws, maybe a wedge, or escutcheon. Things that can be mailed in an envelope....arrived in an envelope ...$8.50 "Shipping".

Might be better off stripping down some projects, selling parts.

Yeppers. Post office raised rates for the holiday traffic.

 

[Billy Boy]

All this has me thinking I should sell my Thompson Center Hawken with ”presentation grade patina”.

I think i’ll sell mine , buy a new boat and start a business…

 

[user 48702]

Everything is relative, more of a want not a worth. What one wouldn't pay for an item might be an outstanding deal in the eye of another, as some have the money and are willing to pay. I've been to old west auctions where 18" inch sections of old barbed wire sold for over $500, and let me tell you, the winning bidder looked like he just found his lost love. Not too long ago, you just about couldn't give away any firearm marked Sears and Roebuck marketed as "J.C. Higgins" or "Ted Williams", but today according to condition, they will outpace the market price of their parent manufacturers firearm models. I collect toy cap-guns from the 1930s thru 1950s, and to be honest, if you want to see some wild prices, check out some of the auctions for antique toys. T/Cs discontinued models are like anything else that they don't make anymore, collectable by some and desired by others.