A percussion muzzleloader

[Wufwuf1]

So at a garage sale I picked up a small (like rabbit gun size) percussion muzzle-load musket. I have been searching for what it could be. It has a Lane like look to the trigger guard and G. Goucher look to the hammer. Markings are to feint to make out, and it has a round barrel. Taking any ideas anyone has.

 

[Wufwuf1]

No guesses? Should I take apart the mechanisms to find a maker?

 

[Loja man]

I have no idea! But next time you go garage selling I’m coming!!

 

[Wufwuf1]

I have no idea! But next time you go garage selling I’m coming!!

Estate sales have been great too. This was one estate sale I went to for a friend of my brother. I kept the shotgun (yellow tag). The rest were for him.

 

[Sam squanch]

Maybe from a small maker in New England or the East Coast. A lot of ordinary no name guns were made for sale in factories for western expansion, some started by former employees from the bigger names- Allen, Remington, ect. The engraved plaque is unusual. Maybe this was a local prize given away with the town pictured on it?

 

[Thagomizer]

The town looks European. Not many castles here.

 

[Thagomizer]

Is this rifled or smoothbore? I've not seen anything like it. As far as the hammer resembling a Golcher, it does, but so do most hammers. Are the markings actually markings or just gouges or casting imperfections?

 

[LANEY REECE]

You can send the gun to me and i will use it and make sure it shoots ok. haha.

 

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Trigger guard looks distinctly Hawken, perhaps a replacement. The action looks somewhat like Burnside.

 

[Sam squanch]

Maybe just a one off by a gunsmith.

 

[Wufwuf1]

Maybe from a small maker in New England or the East Coast. A lot of ordinary no name guns were made for sale in factories for western expansion, some started by former employees from the bigger names- Allen, Remington, ect. The engraved plaque is unusual. Maybe this was a local prize given away with the town pictured on it?

Is this rifled or smoothbore? I've not seen anything like it. As far as the hammer resembling a Golcher, it does, but so do most hammers. Are the markings actually markings or just gouges or casting imperfections?

It is smooth bore.

 

[Crockford]

The bridge going to the castle has Train cars or cars on it. So can't be to old.

 

[Crockford]

The Hawken guard was probably put on there to help hold the stock together. It look like it is cracked. Looks like a wood screw sticking out the back scroll. Pretty neat looking gun.

 

[Wufwuf1]

The Hawken guard was probably put on there to help hold the stock together. It look like it is cracked. Looks like a wood screw sticking out the back scroll. Pretty neat looking gun.

Thanks. The other side has a similar picture, except of a ruin. Yeah it has definitely had work done on it. Not sure if the stock was broken or if it was stored in bad location and the wood deformed. It strikes me as a gun given to a kid. Just my impression.

 

[Wufwuf1]

The bridge going to the castle has Train cars or cars on it. So can't be to old.

Not sure if train cars or some kind of festival. No sign of propulsion. Similar architecture all over Europe, but something makes me think German or Czech.

 

[Wufwuf1]

Honestly, the town reminds me of Landshut Germany. Trausnitze castle.

 

[Wufwuf1]

Thanks. The other side has a similar picture, except of a ruin. Yeah it has definitely had work done on it. Not sure if the stock was broken or if it was stored in bad location and the wood deformed. It strikes me as a gun given to a kid. Just my impression.

Here is the other side of the stick.

 

[Mike in FL]

I don't think I would take it apart. Too much risk of damage.

 

[Whitworth]

Not sure if train cars or some kind of festival. No sign of propulsion. Similar architecture all over Europe, but something makes me think German or Czech.

The locomotive and tender resemble the American "Tom Thumb" built in 1830. By the time percussion caps along the locomotive was well developed beyond what's pictured. The first German railroad was built in 1835, all 3 1/2 miles of it used a locomotive built in England. The building depicted do look European. Are those traces of a gold wash on the lock?

 

[Wufwuf1]

So. One other thing I noticed that seemed distinctive. In the area near the percussion cap. There appears to be a shield designed to sweep the sparks to the right. I don’t see anything like that in my digging any ideas?