A rifle that needs swabbed after every shot on a woodswalk??

[Tumbledown]

What are your patches made of? Any synthetic material in them may be the problem. Perhaps the material is a cotton/poly blend and you didn't know it.

 

[NorthFork]

What are your patches made of? Any synthetic material in them may be the problem. Perhaps the material is a cotton/poly blend and you didn't know it.

Pure cotton that I purchase AND test from JoAnn's. No synthetics or blends go in my rifles.

edit- burn test ALL patch material! Synthetics burn vastly differently from cotton or linen.

 

[deerstalkert]

one other thing you might try is a heavily lubed felt wad over powder, then lubed patch and ball.
may not be legal for your woods walk.
i have to use this on a tc barrel.

 

[SDSmlf]

So my new .45 rifle needs swabbed after every shot to remove a nasty crud ring or seating pressure varies and fliers occur. Swab after every shot and it is accurate…….. A crud ring developes after every shot making seating the next patched ball very hard. I get a max of 3 shots then wild fliers develope.

I’ve had similar issues with a few guns, particularly 45 caliber and smaller. The ScotchBright treatment did help some for a crud ring, but not always. Best ‘workaround’ I have found was a ‘very wet’ patch and ball combo (it will spit lube back at you when started) that I would let sit on the crud ring for a second or two before pushing it home. This can create a problem with the ‘very wet’ patch fouling the powder charge, particularly the light charges (12-15 grains) I use in my 32 caliber guns. Found that a dry or relatively dry slightly oversized felt wad between the powder and the very wet patch and ball solved the issue. Now, one would still have to carry the felt wads and run them down the bore, but you will not have 40 or so dirty patches to contend with. Might be something to try.

 

[Old Hawkeye]

Am I understanding this thread correctly? The OP doesn't know what to do with the patches he uses to wipe his barrel between shots while on a "woods walk"? He has 24 responses so far!! It must be a slow news day.

 

[Sam squanch]

Put them in a ziplock bag to avoid getting other things dirty. I have a rifle and pistol that if I don’t swab between every shot, I get bad flyers. No big deal.

 

[tenngun]

Try a wad of tow and worn to wipe with. It can be used over and over
Just damp and you don’t have to dry your bore, so one swabing is plenty

 

[andy52]

Am I understanding this thread correctly? The OP doesn't know what to do with the patches he uses to wipe his barrel between shots while on a "woods walk"? He has 24 responses so far!! It must be a slow news day.

No, his point is he has to clean between every shot to keep his gun running.

 

[nchawkeye]

Sounds like you need a haversack

 

[NorthFork]

one other thing you might try is a heavily lubed felt wad over powder, then lubed patch and ball.
may not be legal for your woods walk.
i have to use this on a tc barrel.

Done did that. It made the crud worse and groups were terrible.

 

[NorthFork]

Try a wad of tow and worn to wipe with. It can be used over and over
Just damp and you don’t have to dry your bore, so one swabing is plenty

This is a good idea.

 

[NorthFork]

Am I understanding this thread correctly? The OP doesn't know what to do with the patches he uses to wipe his barrel between shots while on a "woods walk"? He has 24 responses so far!! It must be a slow news day.

What would you like me to do with them? Throw them on the ground like a litterbug? A smart alec response gets one in return.

 

[Timber Wolf]

Thank you for being responsible enough to worry about leaving trash along the Woods Walk. I generally end up picking up the manure others leave as I go along ours. I’m thinking a little separate, perhaps lined haversack is the answer.

 

[Brokennock]

While I personally would be desperately seeking a different load or something to eliminate the need to swab between shots at all, or getting rid of the gun if this can't be achieved,,,, this is clearly not your choice.
Shove them in your pockets, or in a plastic sandwich bag in your pocket, or in a small net bag, have all been suggested....
We buy seed for the birds that the bears won't come after,,,, I think it might be thistle but could be wrong (most likely I'm wrong), and it comes in a net bag/tube closed at one end, with a drawstring at the other end. It could be tied to your belt or bag strap. If you would like to try this option pm me your address and I'll send you one.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

Belt pouch. Or shoot a different rifle.

 

[bpd303]

My possibles bag has a special section to put trash in, that way I leave nothing but footprints not even a cigarette butt. I really dislike slobs who don't care about trashing somewhere.

 

[TDM]

Hope you find a solution. Both my .45s will develop a crud ring with subsequent flyers, but only after 13-15 shots.

 

[IanH]

Hoppe's #9+. Use plenty on the patch. Drill a shallow hole in the side of your patch knife handle just bigger than your rammer tip. Ram by hand until the ball stops on the ring, count to three while you put your knife handle over the end of the rod, then press the ball home.

 

[French Colonial]

The second best woods walks I ever participated in were at Fort de Chartres during the winter shoots, usually they asked you to demonstrate HC/PC skills but you were not timed.

The best were at Prairieland Frontiersmen when Joe Florini and Dave Good ran them, they were timed events that required you to keep moving as points were deducted for going over time, usually you needed to get flame from your fire starting kit to end the run after shooting a dozen or so varying targets moving at brisk pace through the woods.

With a gun that needed wiped between shots you would be out of the running before you even started, you just did not have enough time for such. As stated before I would not find this acceptable and would search for a load that would give good accuracy with no wiping.

If every one else can do it, you can as well, you just have not found the solution yet, if your club starts timing your events, you will

 

[dave astle]

What to do with all the patches??

So my new .45 rifle needs swabbed after every shot to remove a nasty crud ring or seating pressure varies and fliers occur. Swab after every shot and it is accurate. Powder does not matter. Shuetzen fffg, Goex fffg, or Pyrodex P. Powder amount does not matter. 30grs to 80grs. Lube does not matter. Spit, TOTW mink tallow, Wonderlube, 1970's formula FFG lube, Crisco, etc. A crud ring developes after every shot making seating the next patched ball very hard. I get a max of 3 shots then wild fliers develope. If I use a spit patch cut at muzzle and if I swab with spit after every shot, no fliers. Great accuracy, both off a rest and offhand. I've found that 1 spit soaked patch then 1 dry patch run up and down and flipped and run up and down again work well. This is duplicatable every time vs shooting more than 3 times with no swabbing with any powder, any lube.

This is strictly a target rifle to be used at the longrifle club I belong to, and to attend woodwalks at other clubs. I shoot this rifle VERY well offhand and will be competitive next year compared to what I'm shooting now. My current woodswalk rifle is gaining weight and getting bit heavy to hold steady after 15 or so shots. Soooooo......what to do with 40 cleaning patches, give or take???? 18 to 25 targets, let's round to 20, that's 40 dirty patches to do something with. If it was a matter of cleaning with 3-4 patches halfway in the round, I'd say throw 'em on the ground. Everyone else does for that matter. But not everyone swabs EVERY shot. They will rot in. But I'm not throwing on average 40 patches on the ground! This is not ecologically driven. Cotton patches will rot away. This is a litter problem. I've never been to a woodswalk that has a trash can at every target. What would you do? I'm sure there is an easy solution.

I wear a small belt pouch for used patshes