America's first assault rifle

[Whitworth]

Dont laugh. If they get serious about a .50 caliber ban, Y'all can kiss most of your muzzleloaders goodbye.

I think they mean 50 BMG. No many armor piercing muzzle loading shoulder weapons.

 

[oldwood]

The extended magazine is missing, could roll up a Muzzle Blast Magazine , and tape it to the under side near the trigger guard for the Extended Assault Magazine.

 

[dave951]

I want a grenade launcher under the barrel of my smoothbore so it can identify as an artillery battery

 

[Mtman725]

Do that come in a kit???????

 

[Twisted_1in66]

Then calling an ar-15 an assault rifle must annoy you.

ABSOLUTELY!....uh...yes, it does...drives me nuts.

 

[Twisted_1in66]

Dont laugh. If they get serious about a .50 caliber ban, Y'all can kiss most of your muzzleloaders goodbye.

At least to start with it won't, because our flintlocks and percussion locks are not classified as firearms. They are classified as antique firearms and are exempt from the Gun Control Act of 1968. That is of course a federal classification and due to the preemprtion laws I don't believe it a state can change that classification. Very specifically the Gun Control Acto of 1968 classifies them as "Antique Firearms" and here's the part of the law that deals with that definition:
"Antique Firearm
26 U.S.C. § 5845(G)

For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term “Antique Firearms” means any firearm not intended or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898 (including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade."

The key word for us in that definition is "replica", which means any modern made version that still uses the same form and even more importantly "Antique Firearm".

 

[sportster73hp]

At least to start with it won't, because our flintlocks and percussion locks are not classified as firearms. They are classified as antique firearms and are exempt from the Gun Control Act of 1968. That is of course a federal classification and due to the preemprtion laws I don't believe it a state can change that classification. Very specifically the Gun Control Acto of 1968 classifies them as "Antique Firearms" and here's the part of the law that deals with that definition:
"Antique Firearm
26 U.S.C. § 5845(G)

For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term “Antique Firearms” means any firearm not intended or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898 (including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade."

The key word for us in that definition is "replica", which means any modern made version that still uses the same form and even more importantly "Antique Firearm".

And Nancy thinks the second amendment is only for “ firearms “ at that time

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

Although I don't like the term, if you look at historical writings of early pre-cartridge arms, a case could be made that the Fergsuon rifle, capable of 8+ aimed shots with hits out to 200-yards in a minute, could certainly qualify for this title.

The concept and tactics used with it were sound, the execution thereof (as VERY weak in the area around the lockplate, for military service) ... not so much.

 

[Artificer]

The first assault rifle wouldn't have been a rifle. It would have been a smoothbored musket capable of mounting a bayonet. Most likely something very much like a Long Land Pattern King's Musket (Brown Bess).

EXACTLY right and for these reasons:

1. It was a military weapon
2. It was a military caliber
3. It could be loaded and fired two to three times faster than civilian period "hunting" arms.
4. It was actually used to assault enemies in the field, in entrenchments, and military fortifications
5. Safety Warning on this one for those Liberals who have a weak constitution and may feint. It was fitted for the most scary and dreaded bayonet.

Sound familiar to what Anti-Gun folks claim today?

Gus

 

[Grenadier1758]

And I think the King's Musket would have been banned in the first assault weapons ban if it hadn't already qualified as a non weapon for all of Gus's reasons above.

 

[N.Y. Yankee]

I think they mean 50 BMG. No many armor piercing muzzle loading shoulder weapons.

Not just .50 BMG, anything .50 cal and over. The proposed law I read said anything .50 and over, including muzzleloading arms. Dang I wish I could find it now. When I do I will post it.

 

[krshade]

With a 'buck and ball' load or just shot, they would fire multiple projectiles with a single trigger pull.

 

[Steve Martin]

I know I am "preaching to the choir" here but in fact, All firearms used to attack someone or something are by definition "assault rifles". Likewise unless used to attack someone or something NO firearms are 'assault rifles". The term assault rifle was coined decades ago by the media to help ignorant liberal types further their anti-gun agendas. Afterall, doesn't the phrase "He's carrying an assault rifle!" sound so much more terrifying than "He's carrying a rifle!"? A pistol grip, flash suppressor and bayonet lug does not create an assault anything, those are just firearm fashion statements.

 

[appalichian hunter]

Beet the red coats a being fired on by a bunch of farmers with pitch forks thought they were being assaulted by weapons. It's all a word play to further a liberal push to ban all weapons that fire a projectile. I like the original post and pic, sometimes we need to lighten up a bit and enjoy the well look at this.

 

[Rod Man]

They are out there...

 

[sussexmuzllodr]

Dont laugh. If they get serious about a .50 caliber ban, Y'all can kiss most of your muzzleloaders goodbye.

Yep. Nj passed a centerfire .50 caliber rifle ban. you can bet they wont stop there. Got the heck out...to free america....for now...

 

[GREENSWLDE]

Henry Nock's .45" 7 barreled flint locks that were issued to Our Royal Navy may fit the bill or a double coaching carbine in 12b with a sprung bayonet used with heavy swan shot.. About 1775 to 1840.. OLD DOG..

 

[Tom A Hawk]

In NYS we're banned from having loading blocks holding more than 10 balls....

 

[N.Y. Yankee]

In NYS we're banned from having loading blocks holding more than 10 balls....

 

[Whitworth]

In NYS we're banned from having loading blocks holding more than 10 balls....

I hope your kidding