Another Trade Gun finished

[Rob M.]

I didn't build this one but bought it about a month ago and have been rebuilding it on and off . I really like how it turned out . Just put it back together today . A couple small things left to do but its pretty much done .

 

[Rob M.]

Before pics ...

 

[Rob M.]

Things I did to rebuild it ..... I've done SO much to it but you really wouldn't know it by the casual glance or even more . I sanded off the horrible amateur carvings on both sides of the butt stock , sanded off the scallops on the ramrod channel , all barrel lugs were drilled wrong and pins bad , one lug had fallen off so I made new Bartel tennons , soldered them on , filled old pin holes and redrilled pin holes , made new RR pipes , inlet them , plugged old holes , redrill pipe holes , reamed out forearm RR hole from 1/4" dia. , made new hand tapered ramrod , cut butt stock end off , cut to proper LOP , reworked it then , new nails made and attached reworked buttplate tonbutt stock , fixed trigger pin hole and redrilled it , replaced sear and reworked wood in lock mortice so lock would work , took out gaps at tang and breech of barrel , filled tang screw hole with hardwood dowel then redrilled tang / TG hole , welded up tag then redrilled and tapped it , new tang screw , re carved tang and mortice carvings , sanded stock and refinished it ... Proof tested barrel and redrilled TH

 

[hawkenhunter50]

Much improved, nicely done Sir!

 

[WALT53]

Things I did to rebuild it ..... I've done SO much to it but you really wouldn't know it by the casual glance or even more . I sanded off the horrible amateur carvings on both sides of the butt stock , sanded off the scallops on the ramrod channel , all barrel lugs were drilled wrong and pins bad , one lug had fallen off so I made new Bartel tennons , soldered them on , filled old pin holes and redrilled pin holes , made new RR pipes , inlet them , plugged old holes , redrill pipe holes , reamed out forearm RR hole from 1/4" dia. , made new hand tapered ramrod , cut butt stock end off , cut to proper LOP , reworked it then , new nails made and attached reworked buttplate tonbutt stock , fixed trigger pin hole and redrilled it , replaced sear and reworked wood in lock mortice so lock would work , took out gaps at tang and breech of barrel , filled tang screw hole with hardwood dowel then redrilled tang / TG hole , welded up tag then redrilled and tapped it , new tang screw , re carved tang and mortice carvings , sanded stock and refinished it ... Proof tested barrel and redrilled TH

Very nice sir I like the finish on the stock

 

[Rob M.]

Thank you gentlemen. Funny thing ...at the beginning when I picked it up I thought ...not much to fix it up....LOL !! D.A. me !! Lordy ! The more I tore into it the more I found wrong . Just what I needed ! More gun work ! Oh well ...I got her done . She won't last long on the selling block , she looks and handles very nicely ...and 6 pds.

 

[50calBoone]

Looks Great , Very nice

 

[Norman Brooks]

Excellent job. I like the looks of a trade gun except for the trigger guard that looks like a big D handle to carry the gun with. Do trade guns all have that big of a trigger guard?

 

[smoothshooter]

I didn't build this one but bought it about a month ago and have been rebuilding it on and off . I really like how it turned out . Just put it back together today . A couple small things left to do but its pretty much done .

What barrel length, and what will you be asking for it?

 

[Rob M.]

What barrel length, and what will you be asking for it?

What barrel length, and what will you b

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What barrel length, and what will you be asking for it?

What barrel length, and what will you be asking for it?

42" , .58/ 24 ga. barrel . I'll be asking $1800 + shipping

 

[Rob M.]

Excellent job. I like the looks of a trade gun except for the trigger guard that looks like a big D handle to carry the gun with. Do trade guns all have that big of a trigger guard?

This is actually the small bow trigger guard , pre 1780 on this gun . The large bow trigger guard , post 1780, is much larger ... I'll find a pic . I just finished a late one too

 

[Rob M.]

Much improved, nicely done Sir!

Thanks bud . I'm really liking this gun . Turned out rather sharp .

 

[WALT53]

Thanks bud . I'm really liking this gun . Turned out rather sharp .

What do.use on the stock to get the black on to make it look aged

 

[Norman Brooks]

This is actually the small bow trigger guard , pre 1780 on this gun . The large bow trigger guard , post 1780, is much larger ... I'll find a pic . I just finished a late one too

I wonder what the purpose was having a big trigger guard. Wished I had the money to buy it. It is a nice one...

 

[Bnewberry]

Looks great!

 

[fred fellows]

the big trigger guard is because indians use two fingers to fire the gun like two fingers on a bow string

 

[Rob M.]

I wonder what the purpose was having a big trigger guard. Wished I had the money to buy it. It is a nice one...

There are a few theories . In 1740 the HBCo wrote that trigger guards were to be made bigger so one could use two fingers to pull the trigger , hard trigger pull . In approximately 1780 the guards were made even bigger but HBCo records were destroyed in fire around that date so no official reason . A couple different surmises but I kinda stick with the whole mitten theory . Large enough so you could pull the trigger with a mitton on . It was an arctic gun so it makes sense but ...who knows . Its does get damn cold in northern Canada though !

 

[Rawhide67]

Excellent job. I like the looks of a trade gun except for the trigger guard that looks like a big D handle to carry the gun with. Do trade guns all have that big of a trigger guard?

Looks like a pretty typical Tigger guard for a trade gun.

 

[Norman Brooks]

There are a few theories . In 1740 the HBCo wrote that trigger guards were to be made bigger so one could use two fingers to pull the trigger , hard trigger pull . In approximately 1780 the guards were made even bigger but HBCo records were destroyed in fire around that date so no official reason . A couple different surmises but I kinda stick with the whole mitten theory . Large enough so you could pull the trigger with a mitton on . It was an arctic gun so it makes sense but ...who knows . Its does get damn cold in northern Canada though !

That make sense, big trigger guard for the mitten. Thanks you for the info.

 

[Rob M.]

That make sense, big trigger guard for the mitten. Thanks you for the info.

No problem . My favorite subject !