Any fat guys using GPR?

[Wes/Tex]

Mount it between bicep and shoulder and it will not bother you. Been shooting these types for years. Just got me a GPR and love it.

That's the way to go. Don't put that crescent butt plate in the pocket of your shoulder like a shotgun butt plate but just outside the roll of the shoulder joint. That's the trick. In fact, you'll usually find if a bit difficult to get down on the stock properly unless you hold a crescent butt plate the right way.

 

[paulvallandigham]

Ron, If the gun just doesn't feel right mounting above your bicep and under the ball of the shoulder, then you need to simply replace that half moon buttplate with a shotgun style buttplate, and mount the gun, shotgun style, in the pocket of your shoulder, closer to your neck. I have very broad shoulders, mutters the tailors when I am looking for sport coats. Even with my elbow lifted up to bring that bicep closer to my face Marine corps style" , It just does not feel right. I suspect I have been shooting shotguns for way too long.

Because those stocks are very straight, and do not have much drop at comb, you might want to have some fit the stock a bit, by removing part of the heel of the stock to increase the pitch of the gun. That will keep the toe of the stock from digging into your chest. Then, change the LOP by either shortening or you can lengthen it with a recoil pad. Its your gun, and your gunstock. Make if fit you.

Years ago, I had a gunsmith fit my Winch. Model 94 stock to me, by adding both spacers and a recoil pad. The stock is very straight, and now very long, but it no longer beats my cheekbone to death as if I were shooting a .458 magnum. Every man who is 6 feet and over who has put that rifle to his shoulder, or who has been able to fire a couple of rounds, tells me that is the first .30-30 they have ever fired that didn't hurt! So, I know it was not just me! The factory stock is too short, and was beating the heck out of me!

 

[Idaho Ron]

thanks for the info but I can't have the 32 changed. It has been in the family too long. I don't shoot the CVA any more so. Anyway, thanks. I am like Paul i probably have shot shotguns too long to switch. Ron

 

[Jblk]

I like to refer to myself as portly XXX.You will love the GPR although its not the same as mounting a shotgun.After awhile you don't even notice the shape.But if you are going to build your own kit, you can shape it any way that you want.

 

[Snakebite]

I guess I've been doing it wrong for 30 years. I have a .54 halfstock custom Hawken and a .40 S. Mountain rifle and I shoot them just like I shoot any other rifle/shotgun, butt in my shoulder. The sights line up just right, if I put it out like most people here say to, I have to kind of cant my head over to look down the sights. I've shot heavy loads and light loads and have never had a problem. I never even heard of mounting it above your bicep until I started reading this forum. I don't put it on the ball of my shoulder, I mount it in the pocket, that cresent buttplate fits jsut fine. Sometimes I think there are "too many right and wrong ways" people think you have to do things ( :bull: ), too many experts; try it out and see what's best for you.

 

[Dan Fangle]

You are supposed to put the butt of the rifle(the brass plate) against your shoulder, not against your gut.
I have never fired a rifle that way, but yeah, I can imagine it hurt. How would you even aim that way?

 

[paulvallandigham]

Rusty, my chest is a long way from my belly, but when I was shooting a half moon buttplate, that toe dug terrible bruises into my chest muscles, that would take a week to go away. I changed the butt to a shotgun style buttplate, and then also had my gunsmith take about a half inch of wood off the toe of the stock. No more bruises.

 

:rotf: If yer shooting that style a rifle off yer chest then you pretty much deserve a bruised up chest. Especially after being told better by folks that have been shooting them for years without bruising. :rotf:

 

[Snakebite]

When I put my rifle to my shoulder, the bottom of the buttplate doesn't stick into my chest, it goes at an angle to my underarm, as a shutzenrifle with the hooked butt would except the hooked butt does go all the way under your arm. I don't know how else to describe it, except maybe placing the butt between the ball of your shoulder and edge of your pectoral muscle. Unless you're trying to shoot it like you shoot skeet with an open stance, I don't see how it could be in your chest. I'm not a skinny runt, 5'10", 240lbs, but I don't think size would matter that much anyways, I shot the same way when I was 150lbs. I've just never heard of anyone having a problem shooing a rifle with a cresent buttplate before.

 

[Little Wattsy]

Im new and all but just for the record after spending a day at the powder horn shouldering meny differant types of ML's the GPR cut into my arm/upper bycept/between the shoulder ball bycept too. I tried a trade rifle that was better as it had a less severe cressent in the butt and the one that fit best was a T/C something that had a very shallow cressent AND the brass was rounded and smooth so as to to have "sharp" edges.
I would have to modify the butt of a GPR I think to really enjoy shooting it, that being said modifications aer relatively easy and cheap

 

[SimonKenton]

I'm 6'1" and used to run 315# but now I'm 205# so maybe it won't nail my shoulder as bad.

-Ray

 

[MFP308]

I've only been shooting my GPR .54 for not quite a year now. My shooting position is what comes natural and comfortable, never really thought about it. After reading all this I had to get it out and see where it sat on my arm. I'll be damned if it wasn't where you all have been suggesting, above the biceps next to the deltoid. For some reason that surprised me.

Mike

PS 205 5' 11'

 

[RedFeather]

I found the best reasoning for mounting a crescent butt on the arm vs the shoulder in an old post which quoted a grey beard. He opined that the misconception started during WWI when a lot of guys were trained to use the Springfield with its modern flat butt. The boys went home with shoulder mounting ingrained in them. I will say that the sharp toe on the GPR is what has mainly kept me away. Maybe I will try one on the arm. When I first got my Zouave I shot 505 grain minnies over 65 gr FFG while wearing a T-shirt, the butt rested on my upper arm. Later than day it turned many colors of purple and yellow. Guess that one should have been shouldered.

On the 1894 in .32 Winchester Special, a poorly fitted or improperly mounted gun will substantially multiply the recoil. Also look at the stock to see if it has any cast or bend to it. Had a European stocked Beretta 12 guage that flat beat the daylights out of my cheek with trap loads as it was "cast on". Had the stock steamed and a pad put on it and now it has about zip recoil.

 

[Idaho Ron]

No bend on the old winchester. Ron