• Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight.

    We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.

    Use this link to sign up please; https://membership.nra.org/recruiters/join/XR045103

Any guesses?

Muzzleloading Forum

Help Support Muzzleloading Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

Musketeer

50 Cal.
Joined
Aug 27, 2004
Messages
1,946
Reaction score
976
Location
Arizona
I downloaded this pic a long time ago. I don't even know where I found it. The ultimate in 18th century home defense technology! Any ideas what it might be (as in the style of lock, or some feature that would identify it as the work of some particular maker or country of origin)? Thanks! :thumbsup:
9227.jpg
 
Loyalist Arms has a similar contract blunderbus. The barrel is brass but has more flare at the muzzle. Most of the blunderbus type of gun would most likely be British for sea service use.
Loyalist Arms

Your picture appears to be of a late 18th century since the lockplate is relatively flat as opposed to the banana shape of an earlier model.

Interesting picture non the less.
 
Any ideas what it might be

It's a blunderbuss... :D

This brass flintlock blunderbuss was made by H. Nock of England. The barrel is only about 12 inches long, and is a full 1 1/8 inches at the muzzle...
 
Musketman , where did you find this info? :hmm:

Grenadier , thanks, I'm aware of the Loyalist version. It's going to be my next purchase. :thumbsup:
 
Seven Barreled Volley Gun

Seven .50 caliber barrels going off at once! Ouch! Methinks there weren't a whole lot of volunteers willing to shoot it a second time.

Dick
 
I'd love to fire it once though. ::I just read the description of those guns and was surprised to read they were rifled. Why? :what: This is not exactly a snipers weapon. In fact it seems some shot dispersion would only add to the effect of firing one.
 
did you notice the FIRING of the 'volley gun' in the movie MASTER AND COMMANDER ??? watch closely during the boarding scene, you see a grenade roll across the deck, then it cuts to a sailor coming towards you and 'WHAM' SEVEN count em '7' jets of flame come right at the camera....AWESOME.... :thumbsup: :redthumb: :thumbsup: :redthumb:
 
Perhaps the one from Mil Heritage is of superior quality - it does appear to be of fair quality in the photos.
: I am concerned over the strength of the brass barrel from Loyalist and ease of hurting such a fragile piece.
blunderbuss1.jpg

blunderbuss5.jpg
 
I'd love to fire it once though. ::I just read the description of those guns and was surprised to read they were rifled. Why? :what: This is not exactly a snipers weapon. In fact it seems some shot dispersion would only add to the effect of firing one.

Contraire to popular belief, the flared muzzle of the blunderbuss had nothing to do with shot dispersion, and the makers of the time all knew it to be so.

As the blunderbuss was primarily a coachman's weapon to use against highwaymen in merry ole England of yore. It was strictly for ease of loading on a pitching horse drawn coach (or the blood slick pitching deck of a ship) in the dead of night dark. Think of it like a funnel, no groping, just pour it in and ram it home.
 
"Contraire to popular belief, the flared muzzle of the blunderbuss had nothing to do with shot dispersion...."

Absolutely correct. The actual reason for making them that way is lost to time. They did, however, give somebody out front something to think about, though the funnel theory may have been a real consideration.

"...the blunderbuss was primarily a coachman's weapon...."

Also quite true, and it continued as such till the doublebarrel gun took it's place.

My favorite blunderbuss story deals with an attack on a coach by blunderbuss toting roughs. It's a classic case of assassination:

"Take the case of Thomas Thymm. This unfortunate gentleman possessed the unholy combination of a very satisfactory income and a very unsatisfactory wife, who thought she could enjoy the property much better with someone else. Eventually, the notorious Swedish adventurer, Count Konigsmark, became one of her lovers and decided to correct the situation for her by removing the unwanted husband and substituting hiimself. For helpers he hired three professional killers who chose a blunderbuss as the proper instrument for their purpose. Thus one Sunday evening in February, 1681, they intersepted Thynn's coach. Two of the killers covered the coachman with their pistols while the third disposed of the husband by blazing away through the coach window with his blunderbuss. Fortunately for Count Konigsmark, Mrs. Thynn had not accompanied her husband, for the awful blanketed the inside of the vehicle and left absolutely no doubt about the outcome. The surgeon who examined the remains declared that he, 'found in Thynn's body four bullets which had torn into his Guts, wounded his Liver, and Stomach, and Gall, broke one Rib, and wounded the great Bone below'. In case anyone wondered, the surgeon succinctly concluded: 'Of which Wounds he dyed.'"

No kidding!!!!
 
I was refering to Nock's volley gun. The description in the link describes them as having rifled barrels.
You are correct about the reason for the muzzle flare on a blunderbuss. :thumbsup:
 
You are correct about the reason for the muzzle flare on a blunderbuss.

Plus the enlarged muzzle is very intimidating, it makes the gun look bigger than it really is...

Yes, it's a psychological weapon...

blunderb.jpg
 
The reason for the belled bore on a blunderbuss has not been lost in time. It was to make loading easier while bouncing wildly on the back of a coach.
 
mil heritage and others only seem to have 10 to 12 ga B.Busses for sale but Vern Davis makes a FINE 4 gauge barrel.... WOW a 4oz. ball...... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
"My favorite blunderbuss story deals with an attack on a coach by blunderbuss toting roughs. It's a classic case of assassination:"

Damned vivid description of what one of the bloody things is capable of. Thanks for posting that bit of history.
 
Believe Nock's "Volley Gun" is the weapon described by Bernard Cornwell in his 'Sharpe' series of novels. He mentioned in one of his 'afterwords' about the series of physical injuries sustained by users till the Royal Navy figred they weren't so usefull after all. :haha:
 
Daryl, I posted this email response from Loyalist under another topic, but here it is again so you don't have to go looking for it.
Re Brass barrels:
Our Brass Barreled Blunderbusses are fully functioning and made to fire live ammo and will handle proof charge. For the charges they handle the Brass Barrels are perfectly safe and durable to use.We have had no problems with these Blunderbuss nor the barrels. We have proofed some here and they work fine. The barrels are machined brass. We always email the loading/proofing data when we are ready to ship.

Re Military & French Blunderbuss loading data:

The caliber is .77. A .735 round ball is recommended, although these Blunderbuss
 

Latest posts

Back
Top