Any Lyman Plains Pistol fans here?

[Rat]

Oh no, now I'm going to have to check that out. Thanks. Not. !!!

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

Not based on anything historical, but with an experienced builder and some extra attention they can be made to look passingly similar to a Hawken pistol.

But it’s a fantasy gun and has the inherently stupid “patent breech” of the GPR and poor clenout “nut” design as well.

 

[Stantheman86]

It may not be a copy of any particular design but it has a nice "utilitarian " look kind of like an American 1840s era military pistol.

 

[45man]

I have several pistols and the ROA that I have killed several deer with. One day I will hunt with the pistols. But time goes by too fast. They are fun and do not need speed to kill.

 

[Rat]

Not based on anything historical, but with an experienced builder and some extra attention they can be made to look passingly similar to a Hawken pistol.

But it’s a fantasy gun and has the inherently stupid “patent breech” of the GPR and poor clenout “nut” design as well.

True about the breech. The clean-out nut or screw is not a problem as long as it is never screwed in tight, or screwed in before the nipple is installed. It does/will butt up against the nipple threads. Best bet is to just replace it with a screw that has a head on it, and make sure that the threaded shank will not reach the nipple threads, and again, just barely snug it up, not tight.

I don't like the patent breech either, but I notice that on my Plain's Pistol that it is not a large reduction in diameter. You can get in there real easy to clean it with just about anything, worm or slotted patch head. I have had no miss fires with my Plains Pistol, or any other issues associated with it, which I believe is due to it's not having a large reduction in diameter. Of course I would prefer a flat breech, but, not a problem on this pistol. Just kind of "annoying".

I would not agree that it's a fantasy pistol, it's an honest, traditional single shot pistol, just not a specific copy of any antique pistol. It's a very accurate and powerful pistol, and I like that a lot.

 

[Stantheman86]

I would think that by using a "flush" type cleaning method that you get all the crap out of the patent breech?

 

[Rat]

True. I think it's the guns with tiny powder chambers/tiny patent breeches that suffer the most. Again, the one on the Plains Pistol, and I assume the GPR, is "generous". Easy to clean.

 

[Desperate Lee]

Rat
How close is the CVA Mountain pistol to the Lyman Plains Pistol?
DL

 

[Rat]

Not familiar with the CVA.

 

[Rat]

Well, they look alike, but I see the CVA is a drum and nipple gun, so they are probably breeched differently, probably differ in type of rifling, twist, etc.

 

[Stantheman86]

They look alike externally but I feel , from the Plains Pistols I've handled , the Lyman will have the edge in fit and finish.
When I get my Plains Pistol I may have to do something fun with this CVA but I don't know what yet. The CVA seems to have an exceptionally well made barrel, uniformly sized bore and is accurate but the lock is complete junk. It feels like a Parris pirate cap gun when you **** it.

 

[fishmusic]

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How close is the CVA Mountain pistol to the Lyman Plains Pistol?
DL

I own both in .50 cal. Both are excellent shooters. The CVA inletting and fit up are somewhat sloppy but the lock, at least on mine, is crisp and adjustable for a lighter trigger pull. It also requires 30 gn fffg to group well. The Lyman uses a better quality stock and has a better inletting and fit up. IMHO, the Lyman looks a lot better.

 

[SamTex1949]

just for info here is the Lyman pistol.

 

[Rat]

Fit and finish on my PP is excellent. Lock does indeed look more robust, on the Plain's Pistol.

 

[Stantheman86]

I like that the Plains Pistol doesn't have the enormous, hideous rear sight like a Pedersoli Kentucky .

 

[Stantheman86]

Does the Plains Pistol share the same .360 dovetail as the Plains Rifle?

 

[Rat]

It's the same barrel and breech, as the rifle.

 

[Stantheman86]

So it does have the .360 dovetail.....hmm

 

[Stantheman86]

I ordered a .54 Plains Pistol from muzzle-loaders.com , at $298 it was the best price I could find.

I figured I already have a .54 rifle that I lube and size Minies and also use .520 and .530 round balls in so I won't be adding a new caliber plus why not, the bigger the better.

 

[Grimord]

You won't be disappointed. My 54 GP Pistol is deadly out to 40 yards if I do my part.