Anyone. Ever see one of these before?

[dogfood]

I've always like the 1864 Zouave rifle even if it never saw combat.
Liking shorter barrelled rifles, I was pleasantly surprised when I saw this rendition of an 1864 by Zoli made to artillery carbone length. Naturally, I had to have it.
Question is, have any of you ever come across one? Shoot one? Own one?
I'm hoping it'll prove to be a good shooter esp come deer season.
Cheers,
dgfd

 

[Rock Home Isle]

I would like to see an image…post one

 

[gemmer]

It's a Navy Arms Buffalo rifle.

 

[Rock Home Isle]

It's a Navy Arms Buffalo rifle.

OMG…seriously? I’ve got like 3 of those. I had no idea what OP was talking about…

 

[dogfood]

Can't believe I forgot to post pics. That has done been corrected.

 

[deermanok]

My first muzzleloader was a carbine model Zouave. My buddy had the infantry model.
I don't recall the maker.
It sure was an accurate rifle. We didn't know what we were doing back then, mid-70's. But it was great fun shooting them.

 

[deermanok]

I've always like the 1864 Zouave rifle even if it never saw combat.
Liking shorter barrelled rifles, I was pleasantly surprised when I saw this rendition of an 1864 by Zoli made to artillery carbone length. Naturally, I had to have it.
Question is, have any of you ever come across one? Shoot one? Own one?
I'm hoping it'll prove to be a good shooter esp come deer season.
Cheers,
dgfd

Looks brand new

 

[Rock Home Isle]

No that’s not a Buffalo Hunter…Looks more like a Musketoon.

 

[dogfood]

Looks brand new

Thanks!

 

[TFoley]

No that’s not a Buffalo Hunter…Looks more like a Musketoon.

THIS is a Musketoon -

 

[dogfood]

THIS is a Musketoon -

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One is a repro of a gun that existed, and the Zoli is an imaginary gun if the US put out a late war artillery carbine, sure. But given they have similar if not the same features, wouldn't they both be musketoons?
Or did I complete miss your point.

 

[Phil Coffins]

Mine would only shoot very heavy Mini ball well. Didn't suit me so down the road it went.
all 121 by Oliver Sudden, on Flickr

 

[hawkeye2]

The Zoli short barrel Zouave and the Zoli (NA) Buffalo Hunter were 2 entirely different guns that shared a common heritage in the Zoli 1863 Zouave. Neither of these guns were copies of anything that existed in the past.

 

[1971fx]

Antonio zoli Buffalo hunter and J P Murray carbine

 

[dogfood]

Antonio zoli Buffalo hunter and J P Murray carbine

Very cool

 

[Jason60chev]

I was originally seeking a JP Murray Artillery Carine, but then learned about the Richmond Carbine. I found a member on here who had one available and purchased it.

 

[TFoley]

One is a repro of a gun that existed, and the Zoli is an imaginary gun if the US put out a late war artillery carbine, sure. But given they have similar if not the same features, wouldn't they both be musketoons?
Or did I complete miss your point.

I guess not, but the Parker-Hale version was made and sold as a Musketoon, using the documented and historical military designation in whilst in the service of the country that made it. You have already admitted that the Zoli gun is imaginary, and therefore cannot have an official designation. Perhaps it would be better to say 'after the style of a Musketoon'?

 

[dogfood]

I was originally seeking a JP Murray Artillery Carine, but then learned about the Richmond Carbine. I found a member on here who had one available and purchased it.

Dude...that's beautiful!

 

[SamTex1949]

this is the "buffalo hunter" (dressed up some)

 

[springfield art]

I've always like the 1864 Zouave rifle even if it never saw combat.
Liking shorter barrelled rifles, I was pleasantly surprised when I saw this rendition of an 1864 by Zoli made to artillery carbone length. Naturally, I had to have it.
Question is, have any of you ever come across one? Shoot one? Own one?
I'm hoping it'll prove to be a good shooter esp come deer season.
Cheers,
dgfd

The Zoli is one of the most common makes. I recently saw in person, a mint, un-issued Zouave that a dealer had at a swap meet. It's amazing to hold and view in detail the originals; the workmanship and quality is so superior to the replicas! Not to criticize the replicas! I've had about three of them, the one at present seemed to have better wood fit that others I swapped off. Not had much shooting with them, but the Originals were so common in the late 50's, early 60's that many shooters with N-NSA used them for competition. (Even though they were never issued to troops.) Good luck with yours!