Are preccusions as fun as flinters

[tg]

I think both are fun the flinters a bit more challenging and a but steeper learning curve, I would go for a caplock over no ML at all toy can get a gun style from the 18th century that you like thelooks and feel of and have a caplock installed this was common practice in the 1820-1840 period, many flints were converted to cap everything from French fusils to Lancaster rilfes to lowly trade guns.Gret into the experience and enjoy be it target shooting or hunting as you go it will make little difference what ignition you have many started with caplocks 30 years ago and still use them, get a gun and make some smoke.

 

[broadarrow]

I have been considering a "rock lock" for some time too but any "front stuffer" is better than none at all I would say, Regards, Broadarrow

 

[paulvallandigham]

Altho I am a rocklocker in my heart, I have to agree with you, Jim. Percussion guns are cool, and loads of fun. They are more reliable with less fussing around to get them to shoot. While I have learned what I need to do to first tune my lock, and then load the gun so it fires reliably 99.9% of the time, only a bad percussion caps prevents me from having 100% ignition with my percussion shotgun.

That happens only once in a few thousand shots, and now that I have had the experience, I visually inspect all the caps when I put them in my Capper and turn them all up so I can see them in the tool. I am looking specifically for a cap where there is NO priming compound in the cap, or some of the compound has dripped on the side of a cap. Those I sort out, and use for clearing nipples.

Any MLer is fun to shoot. I think deciding which action is " MORE " fun is like trying to decide which shot of whiskey tastes better. By the time you down the second shot, who cares? :rotf: :hmm:

 

[cowpoke1955]

I'm with Ranger. Plink gave some good advise. I shot a .54 GPR percussion for 10 years with Pyrodex RS with no problems, until I discovered black powder. I still have that GPR (almost 30 years now) plus a .54 T/C Hawkens percussion I use for my conical gun. I really enjoy my flinters, but if my black powder supply gets low I have no problem picking up one of my caplocks and a pound of Pyrodex RS. In fact, after last hunting season Wal-Mart was selling off their Pyrodex RS for $9.00 per pound. I picked up a good supply.

 

'Are percussives as much fun as Flinters?'

Hell No! :grin:



(sorry dude, i just couldnt resist :v )

 

[roundball]

There are different strokes for different folks of course, so this is just the way I personally view things at this point in my life. I shot caplocks all through the 90's, then bought my first Flintlock at the beginning of 2001, and personally found the difference to be like night and day. Since getting into Flintlocks I've fired each of the caplocks (.45/.50/.54cals) only a couple times in the past 8 years.

I normally go to the range almost every weekend year round except during hunting season and after a couple of years of Flintlocks only, got the caplocks out of the cases again, used each one in turn 3 Saturdays in a row...cleaned and recased them, haven't bothered with them since. There is just something about Flintlocks that holds my interest...maybe its because I just can't get over my amazement that the darned contraptions not only work, but work so perfectly every time.

What I think hooked me the most was when I shot my first buck with a Flintlock and patched ball in the fall of 2001. Sitting on the ground against a tree...I laid the Flintlock back down across my lap with smoke curling up out of the vent, with a nice 8 pointer laying in the fall leaves 50 yards out. Just sat there for a minute or two thinking about how it must have been for the settlers 200-300 years ago...that this was how they did it every day...used Flintlocks to feed themselves, fight wars, etc...made an impression on me that's never left.

I'm not a purist, but flintlocks and real black powder are all I've hunted with now for 8 years...rifles, then smoothbores...deer, turkey, squirrels, etc...just keep learning, expanding, etc.

Besides...caplocks are boring...you don't ever hear caplock shooters having shouting matches...I mean interesting discussions...about leather vs. lead, agates vs. black english flints, etc

:grin:

 

[wwpete52]

I don't know, do you really think it's just the guy behind the trigger?

 

[rabjr]

Are preccusions as fun as flinters

No...

 

[Old40Rod]

It will take around 8 months to get it all done. I can't wait that long.

Unless you only have 7 months to live, you should go ahead and get started on getting the permit. You will never get it if you don't apply, and getting it 8 months from now will be better than never getting it at all. You can get a flinter later, and you will like shooting BP in a percussion rifle more than shooting substitutes. As far as I'm concerned, its apples and oranges.

In the mean time, shoot up all the Pyro or 777 you can.

 

[DOUBLEDEUCE 1]

Start with the percussion rifle and get started having some fun. You can always expand to the flintlock in the future.
A friend of mine, Gillian, used to live here in the U.S. I took her shooting and she enjoyed the sport. She has since had to move back to England and was living in York. She joined a shooting club to continue the fun she was able to enjoy here. She was not thrilled with all of the heavy handed stuff you guys have to deal with. In fact, she complained the whole shooting sport scene there was a "Royal pain". I had to agree. :rotf:

 

[DOUBLEDEUCE 1]

I forgot... percussion rifles and pistols are just as fun, maybe slightly more fun in my opinion. Flinters are cool too. :thumbsup:

 

[dukewellington]

Thanks for the input guys :wink: . It looks as if it will be a caplock. Further down the line I will get a flinter, when I have the BP permit of course.

The only smoothbore caplock I could find, was a armi sport kentucky 45 cal. I take it this will be fine of breaking clays and as hunting?

Thanks once again :thumbsup:

 

[Halftail]

It will take around 8 months to get it all done. I can't wait that long.

It must only be certain States where you need a permit for bp?I'd get the permit and buy BP and a flintlock After I bought a couple of caplocks and shot them. :grin:

 

[Halftail]

Duke,
It just occured to me that you might be from England.

 

[dukewellington]

I'm an English dandy :wink:

 

[dukewellington]

Start with the percussion rifle and get started having some fun. You can always expand to the flintlock in the future.
A friend of mine, Gillian, used to live here in the U.S. I took her shooting and she enjoyed the sport. She has since had to move back to England and was living in York. She joined a shooting club to continue the fun she was able to enjoy here. She was not thrilled with all of the heavy handed stuff you guys have to deal with. In fact, she complained the whole shooting sport scene there was a "Royal pain". I had to agree. :rotf:

It's inbeliveble how hard it is to get Guns over here, but we have laot of Gun crime.

Armi sport smoothbore kentucky? Any thoughts on this Gun for shooting shot and ball?

 

I don't know, do you really think it's just the guy behind the trigger?

Obviously, none of those were earned with the seven flintlocks that wouldn't fire. :rotf:

Maybe flintlocks just aren't "your thing".

 

[dukewellington]

I just got in contact with a muzzleloading club, and the gut said he used pyrodex in his flintlocks, aswell has black powder. He said pyrodex can be used, but the priming powder must be very fine.

I also found thiso on the web http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2006/7/13/212542/189
(read powder section)
I'm just going to get a flinter, and use pyrodex until my BP permit comes through.

 

[jethro224]

I'm just going to get a flinter, and use pyrodex until my BP permit comes through.

:rotf:
It just occurred to me...
Duke, nobody told you???
Blackpowder is the most addicting substance known to man. You're gonna end up with several guns anyway. Have fun. :hatsoff:

 

[Otter]

I have a 40cal flintlock Southern Mountain rifle
that I built for myself but, I think my next one
will be a caplock. I have to order black powder
or drive to Little Rock to get it and with gas at
$3.80 or so a gal. it gets to be a pain. With a
caplock I can shoot Pyrodex that Wallyworld has
although at $20 a pd it is a little high. To me
black powder rifles are fun no matter what style
they are.

Clarksville is just 70 +/- miles from you. Can you drive to Clarksville and back for less than $30? If yes go to Powder Inc and pick up a case of BP and either hoard it (it will keep for longer than you will) or split it up with shooting buddies. Current price, if you pick it up, is in the $10.50 per pound range (tax included), but will be going up in the 12% range on October 1.