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Well so far I havent been able to find it in liquid form and the aersol is pushing 400 miles one way away.

Have done some searching on here, I've seen where some of the water soluable oils have changed. So I was wondering what, if any, is a feasable change?

I'm making some of Stumpys stuff. But I'd like to try Dutchs also for a dry patch lube and see what performs out of this rifle.
 
NAPA has oil used for machining / cutting metal That is what I used for my dry patchs. :thumbsup:
 
At our last shoot, I over heard a shooter saying how well murphys oil soap worked for lube without swabbing. I got a chance to try it and I'm sold. Every patched ball slid down easily and accuracy stayed the same. It was also the fastest and easyist cleanup time I have had on my flintlock.
 
The 16 oz can from Track of the Wolf is a pump bottle, not an aerosal. That what I use primarily.

If I were going for a substitute, I would at least look at Murphy's Oil soap. But, mostly, I'm one of those that really like Ballistoil.
 
Here's the links, Track does have the non-aerosol; http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/370/1/BALLISTOL-16

The Napa Soluble Cutting and Grinding oil 765-1526 is a close fit, but in my experiance (and Dutch's) the stuff has some regional differences because Napa uses several different suppliers. I used it when I first began The Dry-lubed patch system and it worked fine, but the patch didn't preform the same if it was stored for more than a month, it's like it didn't have any shelf life at all. http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=WLD7651526_0068896387

Murphy's Oil Soap is a creature all by it'self,,it is not at all like Ballistol.
 
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Dixie's has it in the pump spray can also. I bought two when I was buying other things. Their shipping is quite reasonable as is TOW's. It goes a long ways. So far I have been brewing up Moose Milk and useing it as patch lube and swabing between shots. Accuracy holds well and clean up is much easier. Geo. T.
 
Geo T said:
It goes a long ways.
Yeah there is that.
I just got another 16oz jug, the other one I had lasted me about 5 years,
I use it primarily for my Dry-Patch stuff and at a tablespoon per batch it goes a "looong" ways.
When I use it as a lubricant in my Revolvers it's just a drop at a time like any other oil.
 
GreenMt said:
The 16 oz can from Track of the Wolf is a pump bottle, not an aerosal.
Ok, I have to chime in on a point of terminology. The spray that's produced is the "aerosol", whether it is produced by a pump or a pressurized can. I realize that the term "non-aerosol" is used a lot as a marketing obfuscation for non-pressurized products, but that is technically incorrect if you are talking about something that produces a spray.

We now return to our regularly scheduled programming.

Regards,
Joel
 
Actually, it is NOT an aerosol.....unless you screw on the pump and then you can aerosolize (spray) the stuff. If you prefer not to spray it, just toss the pump and it will remain a non-aerosol can of Ballistol. Aerosol or non-aerosol, it's the purchaser's choice in this case.
 
In my experience using several cans with he pump. It doesn't spray. Maybe if you want to make a big mess and try really hard. Mostly, it just oozes out of the tip. (You can think up your own analogies.)
 
AkDan said:
Well so far I havent been able to find it in liquid form and the aersol is pushing 400 miles one way away.

Have done some searching on here, I've seen where some of the water soluable oils have changed. So I was wondering what, if any, is a feasable change?

I'm making some of Stumpys stuff. But I'd like to try Dutchs also for a dry patch lube and see what performs out of this rifle.

Try this...
http://www.midwayusa.com/brand/ballistol

BPS
 
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GreenMt said:
In my experience using several cans with he pump. It doesn't spray. Maybe if you want to make a big mess and try really hard. Mostly, it just oozes out of the tip. (You can think up your own analogies.)
Curious. I've run the same couple of trigger sprayers on a few cans and they work properly when I adjust the nozzle correctly. I wonder if you had something clogging the nozzles?

Regards,
Joel
 
The Midway price for 16 oz is a very good price. I bought some through Amazon (actually, through their supplier) and paid about $2 more.
 
Greenjoytj said:
If your not in the lower 48 states virtually all merchants treat you as second class foreigners with their shipping policies.

I used to work for a company that shipped to Alaska, Hawaii and Canada. Customers would want UPS ground pricing, but shipments to Alaska and Hawaii have to be flown in and then delivered by truck. We stopped same day and overnight shipping to Canada when up to a third of our shipments were being held for up to a week by Canadian Customs, and guess who the customers blamed. On average, it cost us $30 to ship to Alaska, Hawaii and Canada versus the $5 it cost us to ship to the continental US. Plus we had to eat any shipping back to us for warranty work. This was a fairly large company so we could eat some shipping cost from time to time. For mom and pop shops it's too prohibitive.
 
I can't speak for shipping to Canada, but shipping to Alaska has always been high. Most of the residents up here consider the higher cost of shipping an unavoidable thing and figure it in to the final cost of the merchandise. What really galls most if us are the retail outlets who use the shipping to add to the profits of the business. If normal UPS ground shipping is $9 for a reguar sized package of intermediate weight, that same package shipped to Alaska by UPS next day air will run anywhere from $70 to $120 depending on how much the retailer feels he needs for processing and handling. I've had several outfits charge $12 to $14 to ship a smaller item and then send the item by UPS quantum shipping through USPS at a cost to them of eighty-five cents. I will say that Midway and TOW have never burned me with shipping which one of the reasons why I spend a lot of money with them.
 

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