Excuse my ignorance but I have a question. I'm new to this muzzleloading thing (I've owned a TC white mountain for years but never expanded my horizons)and am wondering how the barrel is mounted to the stock if you do not use wedge pins?
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Yup. The wedges or pins are inserted thru the wood and metal tennons which are attached to the bottom of the barrel.
IMO, on a longrifle, the actual restraint of the barrel comes from the barrel tang and the first wedge or pin forward of the lock. The rest of them just keep things together.
The wood is so flimsy in the forward area that it is actually more descriptive to say the pins attach the stock to the barrel than to say attach the barrel to the stock.
The holes in the tennons for the pins should be slightly elongated fore and aft to allow for the expansion and contraction of the wood and the heating of the barrel.
IMO, on a longrifle, the actual restraint of the barrel comes from the barrel tang and the first wedge or pin forward of the lock. The rest of them just keep things together.
The wood is so flimsy in the forward area that it is actually more descriptive to say the pins attach the stock to the barrel than to say attach the barrel to the stock.
The holes in the tennons for the pins should be slightly elongated fore and aft to allow for the expansion and contraction of the wood and the heating of the barrel.
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I once bought a CVA in a pawn shop that was held together with duct tape and a radiator hose clamp.
Now that dates back to another century so is it a traditional building method?
Now that dates back to another century so is it a traditional building method?
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you might want to consider buying one of the good manuals on rifle construction. i personally like the Gunmith of Grenville County by Peter Alexander, which is available from Track of the Wolf, and will set you back about forty or forty five dollars. this doesn't mean you're going to actually build one, but it's a great explaination of how these rifles are built and then you will have a better understanding about how they work. once you have the book, of course, you might be tempted to put one together for yourself... look deep into my eyes... you are getting sleepy, very sleepy...
I am getting sleeeeeepppppyyyyy......that's why I'm asking. I have been loking at kits on TOTW and don't see wedge pins on some of the finished rifles. At least not the pins I see on my GPR and T/C. The pictures lead me to believe that there are screws through the ramrod pipes or something that hold the barrel. I am very afraid that if I take the next step and buy a book or 2 I'll slide down that slippery slope and have to build something..... help me I'm weak!!!!
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Anything can be fixed with duct tape!! The cure all for things not working right. :thumbsup:
If you are looking at TOTW, they are using pins, they are just hard to see. CVA used the "screw through the pipes" on some pistols, but I sincerely doubt anything you see on TOTW would use that method.
Your GPR uses wedges, not pins. Pins are the same idea as wedges... but instead of using a flat wedge through a slotted underlug, they use a tight fitting round wire pin through an underlug with slightly elongated round hole.
People normally don't remove their pinned barrels to avoid damage to the wood caused by punching out the pins. They clean the barrel in place. I like pulling my barrel off for cleaning, so I am a wedge man.
Your GPR uses wedges, not pins. Pins are the same idea as wedges... but instead of using a flat wedge through a slotted underlug, they use a tight fitting round wire pin through an underlug with slightly elongated round hole.
People normally don't remove their pinned barrels to avoid damage to the wood caused by punching out the pins. They clean the barrel in place. I like pulling my barrel off for cleaning, so I am a wedge man.
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