Basspro not stocking caps

[Dewey]

However, a situation like this could spark the return of the small independant ml speciality shop.

Or "spark" more folk going to FLINT, lol !!

This thread makes me glad all my BP guns are flintlocks !!!

Is this situation due to the growth in in-line use ???

 

[coloradoclyde]

They still list them on their website and I'm betting some stores still carry them.

Computers, store saver cards, store credit cards, etc. are all used to gather data. one of the things that data is used for is, determining what products a particular store carries on its shelves.
It's all about the damn bean counters trying to maximize company profits. large corporations like Bass pro will eliminate any product from their shelves if the bean counters tell them another product will generate more sales and profits.

It's all about maximizing shelf space/sales.

Correct. But I'm not sure about the accuracy of your next post. A sale of one is a sale of one. A sale of ten is a sale of ten. Oh, well.
However, a situation like this could spark the return of the small independant ml speciality shop.

Let me put it another way.
Large retailers are focused on numbers of customers.
The odds That a customer purchasing one item For $1000.00 will purchase any additional items is extremely low.
Whereas the odds of a 1000 customers purchasing a $1.00 item making multiple purchases is extremely high....

Consider that the average Wal-Mart store takes in $2.12 per second 24/7/365

I can't even count that fast... :grin:

 

[Billnpatti]

"Is this situation due to the growth in in-line use ???"

I have no data at hand that I can refer to but I am sure that the growth of interest in the inline rifles accounts for the decrease in the things being stocked by the various sporting goods stores that are specific for the traditional muzzleloaders. So many people want to take advantage of the muzzleloading season but have absolutely zero interest in actual muzzleloaders. They want something that is as close to a modern rifle as they can find and still be legal for the muzzleloading season. That is where the demand is so that is what the stores will stock.

 

[Kansas Jake]

I agree and it is a shame that folks are really missing out on a great sport and part of our heritage. I made the rounds here in town this morning and none of the stores or gun shops had caps or any other traditional front loader stuff except Triple 7 and Pyrodex.

 

[mooman76]

I don't go to the BassPro here much but they had them last time I went. I go there if I am in that area but they are way on the other side of town and I can't count on anything being there. They are very inconsistent in their stock of gun related items so often it is a wasted trip anyway so I go to other stores. Sportsmans Warehouse has caps for $5.75 and up.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

Mostt of my muzzle loader pistols are horse pistols and take musket caps. They are getting very hard to find.

 

[jamesthomas]

I was at my Local Gander Mt. and was at the black powder section looking at the caps when a guy came over looking for inline stuff, in the course of our conversation I explained to him how much he was spending on those Pyrodex pellets, those sabots and 209 caps vs how much I was spending with my Flintlocks or my Caplock pistol. He left with a very interesting look in his face. I might have made a different Black powder shooter out of him.

 

[wpjson]

Just picked up a bunch of 10' and 11's at Sportsman's Warehouse. A bit under 6 bucks a can, but Montana does not have a sales tax and I get a 5% veterans discount. But they have plenty

 

[jamesthomas]

We have a 10% city sales tax in Mobile,Al. Plus whatever state tax. :td: .

 

[Zonie]

However, a situation like this could spark the return of the small independant ml speciality shop.

Or "spark" more folk going to FLINT, lol !!

This thread makes me glad all my BP guns are flintlocks !!!

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That's an odd thing to say.

I can't think of even one gun store or a big box store in my area that carries real flints.

A long time ago I saw some sawed stones in a no longer in business gun store that were supposed to work like a flint but no real flints.

At least some gun stores and a few big box stores carry real percussion caps.

 

[Grenadier1758]

I can't think of even one gun store or a big box store in my area that carries real flints.

There's no hazmat surcharge on flints and I can find flint in my back yard. The back yard flint isn't of the best quality, but it does throw sparks. Can't do that with percussion caps.

 

[Kansas Jake]

I live in northeast Kansas and they do call it the Flint Hills for a very good reason.

 

[Zonie]

I live in Arizona and the closest thing we have to flint is Apache tears or obsidian.

The Indians used it to make arrowheads but being a volcanic black glass it can't take the bashing a flint gets.

That leaves me with several other rocks that are almost impossible to knap into a good flint shape.

If you come to Arizona, you better bring your real flints with you.
The other option is to buy yourself a good percussion rifle and stop by a gun store to pick up some extra percussion caps. :rotf:

 

[Billnpatti]

I am very fortunate, here in the Texas Hill Country you can find lots of "flint" that will knap into very serviceable rifle flints. It is not as good as English or French real flint but it will do the job. On the ranch where we shoot, the road is made of crushed rock, much of it "flint" and it is very easy to find very nice chips that require only minor knapping to make a good rifle flint.

 

[Twisted_1in66]

Actually with most modern inventory replenishment systems, they don't care a whole lot about the number of sales but rather the level of inventory in the store. Retail stores upload their sales for the day after the store is closed (presuming they are not open 24/7) and levels are adjusted to the running inventory. Object is to have just enough inventory on the shelf to handle demand and that changes seasonally, plus you have to account for shipping time to get to the various stores from your warehouse.

Also, computers don't do it all. There are "retail planners" whose job it is to keep fine tuning the system. And, good retail managers will keep them informed if any anomalies happen to suddenly deplete their inventory - like someone buying 10,000 caps - so the planner can expedite replacement and if it happens a couple of times, up the inventory level on that item. Virtually all of these systems are trying to achieve a 95% fill rate, but it takes a good planner with good store communication to make it work.

A poor planner with poor communication will cause stores to be out of lots of things right up to the point where he's fired.

Twisted_1in66:thumbsup:
Dan

 

[Dewey]

I can't think of even one gun store or a big box store in my area that carries real flints.

At least some gun stores and a few big box stores carry real percussion caps.

Not in my neck-of-the-woods.

The gun/big box stores only carry in-line supplies, with shotgun shell primers. :cursing:

This in-line stuff is killing our hobby, IMHO. :shake:


Yes, I have to buy my flints on-line from Track ... but even Track does not sell caps.

Powder, Inc and Graf do sell caps as well as real black powder, but I can't get over the sticker shock at the price! :shocked2:

I sold my last percussion guns 15 years ago, and will never buy another. Especially an :cursing: in-line. :barf:

I was shooting my flint Chief's gun at the range a few weeks ago ... the other shooters there thought I was a "real primitive"! :haha:

 

[Kansas Jake]

I just visited with the proprietor of a local gunshot/gunsmith this morning about BP supplies. He said he has not been able to get percussion caps for a while, even though he has ordered them. He said Pyrodex has also been back ordered for him along with some powders. Especially pistol and shotgun powders. This is a small local stocking shop that carries probably less than 100 firearms at any one time but does a lot of gunsmithing.

 

[Rick Boylan]

I bought 3 packs of 100 #10 caps on Sunday at Sheels and paid $5.99 a pack.

They have both #10 and #11 caps, plus some musket caps. The #10 and #11s are Remmington caps.

 

[USMA65]

I was in a Bass Pro Shop this afternoon and saw Winchester Magnum caps, #11's, for $2.99/100.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

I stopped at bass pro in harrisburg pa on thurs. All out of caps. But the dept manager said they would get them in again as soon as possible and blamed the ammo shortage for short supplies