Bayonet for Brown Bess

[Brasilikilt]

Hey all

The thing isn't even in firing condition yet, and I'm already looking for gizmos to go with it!


I saw this, but am seriously skeptical of it.
Has anyone gotten one of these "bargain bayonets"?
[url] http://www.trackofthewolf.com...TID=9&SUBID=52&STYLEID=188&PARTNUM=BAYONET-BB[/url]

Will this thing bend or snap off if I stab a pumpkin with it?

Is it likely that it won't even fit on my barrel?

I saw others for the Pedersoli Brown Bess that were around $150!

For what I'm doing, I don't REQUIRE a bayonet, but they certainly up the coolness factor

Thanks for any info

Iain

 

[paulvallandigham]

For only $30., I would assume its for decoration, and not for combat obstacle courses! That triangular shape will keep it from bending easily, but I don't think I would expect it to be hardened, or even made of steel that could be hardened and then tempered to allow it to have a useful function, as a bayonet, knife, or weed digger. For your purpose, I think it would be just fine.

 

[wetpowder]

Most likely made in India.....nuff said :hmm:

 

[Brasilikilt]

Of course I want something that is equally as good as what was issued with the musket originally, but considering that I'm not going to be skewering anyone with it.........
But, if you have a bayonet it's natural to want to stab SOMETHING with it, even if it's only Fred Durst or Kid Rock

I also found this:
[url] http://www.dixiegunworks.com/...=3813&osCsid=a05d584d53801a64b3e47abf586bbef2[/url]

OUCH!

I could understand a modest price increase for the good tempered steel and better fit of an Italian made versus the Indian made, but I can't understand over $100 difference

If I could hold one in my hands and check it out, I might be tempted to try and make one.

Thanks for your thoughts

 

[Va.Manuf.06]

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I could understand a modest price increase for the good tempered steel and better fit of an Italian made versus the Indian made, but I can't understand over $100 difference

If I could hold one in my hands and check it out, I might be tempted to try and make one.

Thanks for your thoughts

Whether from India or Italy, neither one will come up to the standards of an original. Both Italian and Indian blades will bend and they will break, especially at the joint where the socket and blade are joined. As far as fit, you will only know if it fits your gun when you try it. I've seen guys go from sutler to sutler trying bayonets to get one that will fit their gun - even the Italian blades will not fit all Italian guns. Some have tried to harden and temper the blades on the Italian bayonets to keep them from bending but few have had success since the quality of the metal varies from pot metal to who knows what. They are meant to be for show, it's the nature of the beast... :shocked2: Use an original if you can, the price difference is often not that bad and is occasionally less, surprisingly enough.

 

[Parzifal]

www.loyalistarms.freeservers.com
My bayonet comes from these folks....
And its of good quality and holds a edge fine...
Pumpkins beware!

And as far as made in india goes....where was the 3rd model bess made??
I think it was called the india model because it was made there on contract for the brits.??
I could be wrong.....

 

[blacksmithshoppe]

And as far as made in india goes....where was the 3rd model bess made??
I think it was called the india model because it was made there on contract for the brits.??
I could be wrong.....

Outsourcing in the 19th century? God save the King!
Jeff :cursing:

 

[Va.Manuf.06]

www.loyalistarms.freeservers.com
My bayonet comes from these folks....
And its of good quality and holds a edge fine...
Pumpkins beware!

And as far as made in india goes....where was the 3rd model bess made??
I think it was called the india model because it was made there on contract for the brits.??
I could be wrong.....

No, the India Pattern Brown Bess was made by English gunmakers for the British East India Company (EIC) for use by their military forces that supplemented regular British troops in the occupation of India, Afghanistan, etc. During the emergency of the Napoleonic Wars, the British government adopted the so called India Pattern as a stop gap weapon for their regular forces and it was produced in LARGE numbers in England. Due to its shorter barrel and fewer embelishments it was less expensive and quicker to produce than the New Land Pattern musket that remained the standard but went out of production. There were some India Pattern muskets produced by Indian makers and they were as well made as those that the Brits made but English production was sufficient for British Army use and the Indian made muskets stayed in India for use by the EIC and some Regular regiments.

 

[CrackStock]

I got mine from Military Heritage and it was just over $35. I have used it for practice and it has held up quite well. I have stabbed hay bales, apples and pumpkins. I have secured tents with it in place of stakes and roasted meat with it. We also stuck a Bess into the ground and left it there for a while.

I can't complain about the Indian made bayonet.

However, the fact is that not all of these are made to the same specs. Some need to be filed to fit and some will never fit. You need to know before you order.

CS

 

[Parzifal]

Thanks for the info/ on the 3rd mod bess."AND FOR FIXIN MY CRASS PRESUMPTIONS"!....mine is a 1st mod kit...from loyalist.....

3 rd is really plain...to much for my fancy.


:hatsoff: thnx again sir!

 

[PvtC]

Got one from TOTW last year. It is very sturdy. The blade is triangular and not fluted as I believe it should be when paired with an english kings pattern land service musket aka Bess. It would be OK for a militia or continental line impression.