BB Gun BBs in Smoothbore?

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I have heard that BBs for BB guns are much harder than steel shot and they require a heavy shot cup. Can anyone recommend a shot cup for .62 and .56 barrels? Anyone have experience shooting BBs from a smoothbore?
 
pab1 said:
I have heard that BBs for BB guns are much harder than steel shot and they require a heavy shot cup. Can anyone recommend a shot cup for .62 and .56 barrels? Anyone have experience shooting BBs from a smoothbore?
No first hand experience using such shot cups for steel shot in MLs...and I wouldn't say they're 'harder' than steel, they're simply steel with a copper wash over them. I do agree using a protective cup of some sort would be prudent...I know I would. Plus, as you probably already know, steel is a good deal lighter than lead, definitely affecting penetration.
 
Smoothbore's are not choked and BB gun BB's are copper plated so that they are softer than the barrels (at the interface)!

The ONLY time I personally would be concerned about using them is if a single layer of them in a barrel could wedge themselves, or a ball they might be in front of or behind, in a barrel. Therefore, they should be able to be used in .50 caliber and larger smoothbores...

They are a little lighter than lead of course and if you are shooting true shotgun loads then lead BB swanshot would probably be preferred if not for waterfowl. I use BB gun BB's in Buck-n-Ball loads for historic fun (cheap and available -- half a lifetime's supply of five at a time can be had for a few dollars worth in a little milk container full).
 
I have shot BB's through a 12 guage single shot whithout a shot cup and they definetely scratch the bore. I will not torture my ML's in such a way
 
roundball said:
pab1 said:
I have heard that BBs for BB guns are much harder than steel shot and they require a heavy shot cup.
No first hand experience using such shot cups for steel shot in MLs...and I wouldn't say they're 'harder' than steel, they're simply steel with a copper wash over them.
With respect, it's a bit more complicated than that. "Steel" bird shot is fairly pure iron and annealed after final grinding to make it as soft as possible, something like 128BHN if I recall correctly. Air rifle shot is common/inexpensive mild (low carbon) steel and unannealed, with a hardness something like 180BHN. This is getting closer to the hardness of barrel steels, somewhere around 220BHN.

Regards,
Joel
 
That sounds like a good piece of info to know...is there a good source to read up on about that?
 
roundball said:
That sounds like a good piece of info to know...is there a good source to read up on about that?
I couldn't find a comprehensive one in a quick websearch, but I found some bits using "steel shot brinell hardness" as search terms. I originally read it in a discussion of just this subject on a shotgun board that expanded into the various hard and soft (comparitively) tungsten-based shot, with the specifics coming from members having engineering and metallurgical backgrounds. I'll post links if I can find a good source.

Regards,
Joel
 
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