beer cocktails

[tenngun]

just saw on fox news computer page about beer as a base for cocktails. Who'ed of thunk? Oh except them folks in the colonies and merry old England 2 or three centuries ago

 

[Loyalist Dave]

What does one mean by "cocktail"?

There is the boiler maker and the depthcharge, which are essentially the same, and these are not unknown to us in this century. As far as the quality of most mass produced lagers..., they could only be improved by adding something, from ice tea or lemonade to spirits. :grin:

There are some century old ones that should be left alone... bogus or calibogus is a pint of unaged spruce beer with a gill of rum added to it. :barf: Whistle Belly Vengeance probably got its name for a reason, eh? :haha:

LD

 

[Black Hand]

And then there is Flip. http://www.gaspee.com/ColonialRecipes.html

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Actually, I've had Flip, and when made right it's pretty good, though the cholesterol count is probably high :shocked2: ..., the trick is a very hot iron and to stir very hard when applied..., otherwise you end up with a pitcher of alcohol drenched scrambled eggs. :barf:

LD

 

[tenngun]

I have read "cocktail" goes back to drinks served at game cock pits and is 18th cent in use. Today the piece I refered to was on using beer in the place of soda, ginger ale or soft drinks. Many of todays beers aren't fit to drink IMHO so can only be helped. Early on in our history beer was mixed not only in flip but with anise oil, cinnamon, and pumpkin. A few winters ago I had some Sam Adams Christmas beers based on 18th cent reciepies.I just think its neat that whats old is new again. And if you have another explanation for "Cocktails" that's ok, I've only read that and never researched that.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Naw, what I meant was some folks think "cocktails" only involve hard liquor and perhaps a "mixer" or something to add flavor, so a gin-n-tonic is a "cocktail" to them as is a gin "martini" with gin and vermouth. Using Cider, Beer, or Ale is sometimes not thought as such..., that's all. :grin:

In fact I don't think a boilermaker was really thought of as a cocktail..., you find it in bartender books, but I doubt when cocktails became "fashionable" [I write "fashionalbe" with a pinkey finger in the air - lol] they were more of a "blue collar" beverage. :wink: A lot of mixed drinks in the 18th century had old beer or cider as a base..., and they made a whole lot of different "punch" with beer, ale, wine, and cider too. I think these too are really cocktails.

BTW for all the winter outdoor types out there..., Jägermeister is being marketed right now as some sort of "shot in a glass". Jägermeister tastes like manure, and cold Jägermeister tastes like chilled manure.

That's because that's not how it was intended to be used. OK first, the name means "hunter master". So if you wonder why an alcohol based herbal liqueur is called that..., try this...,

When you come in from the woods on a cold, damp, perhaps even snowy/drizzly day..., and you feel you've caught a chill, change your clothes to something dry, THEN...,

Take a 12 oz. coffee cup and add HOT coffee, milk (cream is better), and sugar to equal 8 oz., then add 1 - 2 oz. of Jägermeister, and drink! If the Jägermeister flavor is too strong you didn't add enough sugar.

Doesn't matter if you don't normally take milk and sugar, this is medicinal..., the alcohol helps your body warm by dialation of the blood vessels, and the herbs in the Jägermeister help to open your sinus cavities, which helps to ward off the common cold as the rhino virus doesn't like oxygen.

Sorry NOT a beer cocktail, so probably should be in different thread...



LD

 

[Woods Dweller]

Actually, I've had Flip, and when made right it's pretty good, though the cholesterol count is probably high ..., the trick is a very hot iron and to stir very hard when applied...,

otherwise you end up with a pitcher of alcohol drenched scrambled eggs.

This is very true; About 2 years ago my Son tried his hand at making a pitcher of Flip and it ended up “alcohol drenched scrambled eggs”.

He give the pitcher of mess to his son and told him to dump it outside in the yard, too witch his son took the pitcher outside.

Later that day my dog was stagering around in the yard. What the...... is wrong with the dog?

My grandson dumped the pitcher of alcohol drenched scrambled eggs in the dog's bowl. My dog ate it and got dog face drunk.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

:rotf:

LD

 

[Silex]

Not right on the topic but:

Should of seen what the leftover cherries did to the chickens, when mom told me to discard them after the cherry brandy was ready... :wink:

There is a long tradition of distilling herbal based liquor in Germany and the Jägermeister is only one of them - and, yes, they do have good marketing - it is not the best out there.

As for beer cocktails - I will try to find some old world recipies.

Silex

 

[hawkeye2]

Jägermeister is an acquired taste just like Moxie and I have learned to enjoy a shot glass of it chilled. It is great after a large meal as it takes care of that bloated feeling far better than an Alka-Seltzer and can also soothe a mildly upset stomach. As an aside a shot of vodka (from a bottle kept in the freezer) with a liberal shaking of black pepper added works wonders for settling an upset stomach too(old Polish remedy). It's a shame that such a sophisticated liqueur has become the product of abuse of a young group that aspire to nothing more than wallowing in their own vomit at parties.