Best source for English CW pistols?

[Istari6]

Apologies if this has been answered multiple times before, but several searches ("English Civil War", etc.) have turned up nada.

Being interested in how gun technology matured, I'm interested in purchasing a replica of one of the earliest pistols.

I've found Middlesex Trading, Military Heritage and Loyalist Arms. All three have English Civil War flintlock pistols.

I really like the looks of the MTVCo and MH pistol, but I've heard that Loyalist Arms makes the higher quality weapons.

Are there any other sources for weapons from the early era of fireams? Any opinions on the historical accuracy of the MTVCo pistol?

Thanks!

Chris

 

[benvenuto]

EJ Blackley and sons

The Rifle Shoppe (but be prepared for a LONG wait unless the parts are IN STOCK)

I had a look at the Loyalist English and doglock pistols, I don't think they are terribly authentic
get a copy of "Arms and Armour of the English Civil War" by David Blackmore.

Orders in council in 1630 specified pistols with 18 inch barrels and 26 inches long overall, 24 gauge "rolling in". By the time of the war barrels were 14-15 inches. The Loyalist Arms English lock looks far too chunky, in fact it looks like it has a fowler size lock fitted to a pistol! :rotf:
yes, these indian made guns are cheap and fun but not authentic

 

[Istari6]

Benevuto,

Thanks for the response, both about a book reference and some alternate sources. Will do some more research here...

Chris

 

[Christiaan]

You can try Henry Krank They are probably the best and biggest antique and muzzleloader gunshop in the UK.

 

[benvenuto]

Sorry if I poured water in your pan
It just looks like these indian repros could go on a diet. :hmm:
Pistols of this period were VERY long and slender. For some reason the MVT ones look a little more slender than the Loyalist ones, but to be happy I would want to grind a few mm off the edges of the lockplate and restock in a new piece of wood with a very slender forend...
Almost evertone on here who have bought these indian pieces have had to do work on them to make them look more authentic. :thumbsup:

 

[Istari6]

Just checked in again on this thread. Agree that the Loyalist Arms looks a little chunky, but when I looked in the DK book "Weapons", their photograph of an authentic English flintlock pistol circa 1650 looks almost exactly like the MVTCo.

I'm thinking we may be looking at different guns?

Chris

 

[benvenuto]

The MVT ones look plausible, but I still think the lock is a little too large.
The better quality pistols of the time would have been more slender in the stock, have a look here for some originals:
http://www.hermann-historica.com/

 

hello, i am in the exact same boat

i'm liking the mvtco pistol myself, i'd really like to see any pictures of one that has had work done to it, for comparison