Best value smoothbore

[Collie]

All this is my opinion and should be taken as such.

I believe that this smoothbore should reflect what you want to do and should be your first decision. In example, I got a smoothbore musket from Loyalist Arms to use for practice for my hobby, N-SSA competition so that I don’t use my original Model 1842 musket except for competition. N-SSA competition drove my decision to get those 2 smoothbores. Now, I got another Loyalist Arms replica of a British 1839 musket to use for hunting since it was .75” to deal with the >800# boars on my farm. Again, purpose drove the decision.

Now, I’m ratholing $$$ from each paycheck to have sufficient funds to have the aforementioned “some weirdo hillbilly” make a trade musket based off of a trade musket that was recovered in Michigan. There are several posts here of my pursuit of pictures of this piece. The desire to have a Historically Correct (HC) trade musket has always been a personal itch of mine since college and the simple pride of ownership is the driving force. I know that the rendezvous recreation scene isn’t what it was in the 1970’s in Texas & Louisiana so, I’m under no delusion of my dressing out for such. There is a black powder club in the Dallas area that I’m going to join & participate with it in their competitions. So, it isn’t going to be just a wall hanger that the grandkids will have to deal with one day.

In summation, in my opinion and suggest to you that you refine your desired use for a smoothbore and your budget; then, work from there.

Hope this helps & best regards in your quest,

Did you ever get to check out that Dallas black powder club? I've been looking for people to shoot with in this area but haven't had any luck yet.

 

[Rebel]

I have an old Japanese made .16ga/.66cal smoothbore that started out as a flintlock. The lock was pretty worthless so i converted it to a caplock by removing the pan, frizzen and spring, and installing a drum and nipple in the vent hole, and shortened the barrel and stock to 26" . Then placed a piece of steel in the flintlock jaws. Works great and is a darn good shooter with both shot and a ticking patched .648 cast round ball from the Jeff Tanner mold i have for it. Total cast under $460 with the mold.

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

Great conversion, love it!

 

[Rebel]

Thanks. I had it listed for sale but didn't get much interest in it.

 

[wganz]

Did you ever get to check out that Dallas black powder club? I've been looking for people to shoot with in this area but haven't had any luck yet.

I got the dates confuzzled this month and will make their August meeting.

 

[Hermit Tim]

I have an old Japanese made .16ga/.66cal smoothbore that started out as a flintlock. The lock was pretty worthless so i converted it to a caplock by removing the pan, frizzen and spring, and installing a drum and nipple in the vent hole, and shortened the barrel and stock to 26" . Then placed a piece of steel in the flintlock jaws. Works great and is a darn good shooter with both shot and a ticking patched .648 cast round ball from the Jeff Tanner mold i have for it. Total cast under $460 with the mold.

That's pretty slick right there.

 

[Hermit Tim]

Thanks. I had it listed for sale but didn't get much interest in it.

That's because we're all broke. I would gladly give you some FRN's for it if it weren't for Bidenomics.

 

[Warren whitley]

Give Deer Creek Products a call..
Jim , bought out Tip Curtis’s inventory after he passed away..
I think he still has some of Tips “in the white” assembled guns.

Great guns and no waiting on parts…

I bought mine from Mr. Tip in 2016, started shooting it the next day and have let nature take its corse with the finish…

New..
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They still have a lot of his kits they bring to the spring and fall shoots at nmlra

 

[Rebel]

Yep, 'Ol Slow Joe has surely messed things up.

 

[Dale Lilly]

What's best option for a quality smoothbore

I suppose there are many options, but my choice is a Investarms Gallyon. They are no longer made but are really nice. Some engraving on the octagon portion of the octagon to round barrel and the lock. The grip is nicely checkered also. Mine is 12 guage. There is/was one on either Gunbroker or Guns International for a bit more than I paid for mine. Check it out. At least it is another option to consider. Dale

 

[Dale Lilly]

oooooops! The listed Gallyon has been sold but watch for another. they are worth the search. Dale

 

[oreclan]

Well said ! I was just thinking today while I was workin in the shop. It would be fun to make a loose leaf book or VDO on making a flintlock for the first time builder BUT with heavy emphasis on making it as inexpensively as humanly possible .... for folks that can't afford a finished gun . I'd use the NW trade gun as my example , shocker , LOL ...but not just because my affinity for it but the parts are so basic so it'd be the easiest to make . Be pretty fun and a great aid for folks me thinks ... Pryor Mountain Bill Newton s book is the best book to build a NW trade gun by but its not in print anymore as far as I know . Anyone that wants a copy just holler at me . His daughter gave me permission to send folks copy of her dads book via email .

I would be interested in a copy of Bill Newton's book.
[email protected]
Thanks,
Ron

 

[Rob M.]

I would be interested in a copy of Bill Newton's book.
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Thanks,
Ron

Okeydoke bud , on its way

 

[Rob M.]

I would be interested in a copy of Bill Newton's book.
[email protected]
Thanks,
Ron

Ok , JUST sent it . Make sure it worked correctly ,you got the book and patterns . If anything wrong holler at me I'll try again . Hope it helps ,hope you like it . Helped me getcsyarted in building , it was instrumental . Take care

 

[Rob M.]

I would be interested in a copy of Bill Newton's book.
[email protected]
Thanks,
Ron

If ya ain't got a printer go to the library and use their computer and printerb. When you sizing the patterns the Length of pull is about 13.5" .... Best of luck . Long live Pryor Mountain Bill Newton !!

 

[stank]

Well said ! I was just thinking today while I was workin in the shop. It would be fun to make a loose leaf book or VDO on making a flintlock for the first time builder BUT with heavy emphasis on making it as inexpensively as humanly possible .... for folks that can't afford a finished gun . I'd use the NW trade gun as my example , shocker , LOL ...but not just because my affinity for it but the parts are so basic so it'd be the easiest to make . Be pretty fun and a great aid for folks me thinks ... Pryor Mountain Bill Newton s book is the best book to build a NW trade gun by but its not in print anymore as far as I know . Anyone that wants a copy just holler at me . His daughter gave me permission to send folks copy of her dads book via email .

I would love a copy of Bill Newtons book. Thank you
[email protected].

thanks
stank

 

[jd hearity]

Just damn ole trade guns . LOL ....they are better lookin the farther you stand from them good tools though for makin meat

I would love to have a copy of Pryor Mountain Bill Newton's book. Been looking for one for several years. Thanks.

 

[jd hearity]

I would love to have a copy of Pryor Mountain Bill Newton's book. Been looking for one for several years. Thanks.

 

[jd hearity]

Forgot email: [email protected]

 

[Rob M.]

Forgot email: [email protected]

Ok bud ...just sent it ! If it didn't work just holler at me , I'll try again . Long live Pryor Mountain Bill Newtons memory !!!