"Black Powder Use Only"

[Erzulis boat]

At last year's SHOT show in Vegas, I sauntered on over to the Uberti booth and started checking out the wares.

The "BLACK POWDER USE ONLY" bit was clearly, and deeply marked on each (the usual). I told the guy that I would own a lot of their pistols by now if that label was not there.

He said that was the first time that he ever heard that in 30 years. YEAH RIGHT!

Have any of you out there voiced this same complaint?

Alas, legally they MUST say this, so there is no hope.

Do you guys have any techniques on how to remedy this insulting problem?

I am refering to cap-n-ball revolvers only.

:m2c:

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

The second and third generation Colts do not have this marking, so perhaps it is an Italian law. Sometimes a kit version by Uberti will have enough extra metal to allow for filing such marks off.

 

[amccall]

I have a 1858 remington and 1860 colt army and neither has that on them. Both are made by Uberti and I just bought the 1858 Remington.

 

[Ridge]

I've thought the same thing a million times. That's why I bought the Colt guns when they were offered, who wants to see that on the barrel of their pistol?? Not me.

 

[wwfeatherston]

if I was that much into detail, I wouldn't have brought stainless steel pistols!

 

[pondoro]

Lots of guys on the Ruger forum polish the warnings off of their barrels. You do not have to go very deep, and eliminating the letters probably strengthens the barrel. When I worked in the nuclear navy we had to blend scratches and dings out of pipes. Such things cause stress to rise, and the barrel is stronger once you remove them. Those letters scribed or stamped into the barrel are scratches and dings to be sure.

 

[mewing6003]

I have a 1858 remington and 1860 colt army and neither has that on them. Both are made by Uberti and I just bought the 1858 Remington.

I have both of these guns also. On the 1858 the "black powder only" stamping is on the underside of the barrel hidden by loading lever, its on the side of the barrel of the 1860. My understanding was that this mark is required on any black powder weapon made/imported after a certain date. Based on the above, I think I was misinformed.

I dont like the markings, but I dont blame the companies for putting it on the guns. Not with the way the US is lawsuit happy. It only takes one knucklehead to use smokeless powder, have the gun blow up in his face and file a huge lawsuit, whining that he didnt know he had to use black powder :curse:.

 

[amccall]

No you was not wrong, I did not look every place. I never noticed it but you are right. I was used to the "Black Powder Only" right on top of the barrel as big as day on most guns. I did not notice it because it was not where you would see it. It is not as bad as it could be I guess. It seems with every new idiot we have a new warning sign. If they put a warning for all idiots on a gun a pellet gun would have to be the size of a Howitzer to contain all the warning labels. ::

 

[big bore 75]

I myself don't like any warning lable on anything,but its there for the dumb person who believes any firearm can be fired with smokeless powder, that is one reason I'm against that new savage smokless rifle I feel that it is a disaster waiting to happen, as for the warning labels they can be removed, but if I buy a gun to be sold at a later date I leave the lable on it. bb75

 

[Mulebrain]

I do agree! I think it is a bunch of poppy cock! I would be suprised if this safety script originated in Europe. This appears to have been generated in the country. Like when German breweries refused to put warning labels on their beer for export to the U.S.! Go to Europe, they don't have warning lables like we do.

It is like telling a grown man to wear his seatbelt!

Oh well, I am sure we will see more pro safety humbug in the future.

Heck, I will ask Uberti directly!

and here it is:

Sir/Mam,

What caused Uberti to stamp "For Black Powder Use Only" on your blackpowder firearms?

Is this a US regulation for export, or did this originate in Italy? This sounds pure outta control American safety to me.

I think many shooters don't care for that stamp on the barrels, and would prefer it did not have it!

Regards

Patrick

 

[Erzulis boat]

Mule Brain-

This is PURE hearsay, but I think the labels are generated here in the USA!

I asked Dixie, and got some serious tap-dancing going!

 

[TFoley]

Every replica black powder arm sold in the UK, Germany, Belgium, Spain, Italy and all the countries of the EU have this marking too, and in English, so it is not a US only thing. There is also the use of the small stamp 'PN' - often enclosed in a box or a circle. The open stamp, which stands for 'Pulvero *****' - black powder - is for the Italian home market. When in a box or circle it is for export.

It is the law in Europe.

tac :grey:

 

[Mulebrain]

Every replica black powder arm sold in the UK, Germany, Belgium, Spain, Italy and all the countries of the EU have this marking too, and in English, so it is not a US only thing. There is also the use of the small stamp 'PN' - often enclosed in a box or a circle. The open stamp, which stands for 'Pulvero *****' - black powder - is for the Italian home market. When in a box or circle it is for export.

It is the law in Europe.

tac :grey:

Hum, strange they are all in English, even for countries that are not English?? This might be an export rule or something? I will get to the bottom of it sooner or later!

Mule

Have not heard from Uberti yet

 

[SKS_madman]

MB, you have to remember that english is often started as a second language in uerope (at least in germany) in grade school. Most everyone speaks 2 languages. ( according to my teachers)

 

[TFoley]

With the exception of military weapons not made for export, ALL sporting arms in the world are marked with their country of origin in the English language - even French weapons. In the days when we were allowed to have handguns, my wife, an excellent county-level shot, had a Unique DES-69 .22 target pistol. As a sop to the international agreement, it was marked 'FRANCE'. This was a get-by, as the country is called France in French as well as English. But next time you pick up a G***k or a W*****r, note that it does not have Oesterriech or Deutschland on it, but 'Made in Austria' and 'Made in Germany'. I am looking at one of my poor 'dead' G****k pistols right now... :boohoo:

tac :grey: