Board bows.

[PitchyPine]

well like Piney im not much of a wood butcher but I do have a stave in the closet that I really need to tiller and set up. Might have to post a few before and after pics when I start on it.

Very nice work, :thumbsup:

That would be great, thanks

 

[Minuteman]

Well in the interest of makin' you a better bowyer I'd say yer makin' excuses. Ain't trying to start a fight just tellin' ya that a bow made from the same tree as the one you posted can be made to draw and shoot with very little discomfort. Of course theirs alot more to it than just the amount of wood swinging when the limbs return . Theres tillering, whether its bending properly in both limbs, where the bend takes place is important as well. Whip tillered bows tend to have less hand shock than elliptical tillered bows. Also whether or not you cut the bottom limb shorter to keep the center of the bow near your handle makes a big difference. Tons of variables involved.

There sure is a bunch to learn about makin' wooden bows. I've broken more bows than I care to admit. Primitive Archer is loaded with top notch fellas that'll give free, good advice to folks that express genuine interest.
"If you ain't breakin' 'em , you ain't makin' 'em!"

 

[PitchyPine]

Well in the interest of makin' you a better bowyer I'd say yer makin' excuses. Ain't trying to start a fight just tellin' ya that a bow made from the same tree as the one you posted can be made to draw and shoot with very little discomfort. Of course theirs alot more to it than just the amount of wood swinging when the limbs return . Theres tillering, whether its bending properly in both limbs, where the bend takes place is important as well. Whip tillered bows tend to have less hand shock than elliptical tillered bows. Also whether or not you cut the bottom limb shorter to keep the center of the bow near your handle makes a big difference. Tons of variables involved.

There sure is a bunch to learn about makin' wooden bows. I've broken more bows than I care to admit. Primitive Archer is loaded with top notch fellas that'll give free, good advice to folks that express genuine interest.
"If you ain't breakin' 'em , you ain't makin' 'em!"

Well i guess i don`t know enough about it never claimed i did.
Made a few bows broke a few bows and still have a few bows.
I was just sharing a little of what i made, i have no interest in becoming a expert bow maker.


Just want to add i`m not trying to be rude and appreciate your input.

 

[hawk]

hey pitchy you mite like the book "the traditional bowyers bible vol.2 of three.
there is a chapter on bows from boards .
I use hickery they say it's one of the best "white" woods to use .
did your bows take alot of set?(stay bent when unstrung)

 

[RickD]

Pitchy..
Didnt know you were into archery..I`d like to give you a quiver I started but never really finished..Wont have a pic of it yet till tomorrow but it looks something like this one..

 

[Shifty]

:v Pretty decent tiller Pitchy Pine ,tell you some thing else to try a Red Oak board from Lowes with a Hickory Backing , with more of a piramid limb an little bit lighter tip makes a great bow , plus line that big Thumb knuckle up with center of riser an try shooting again , with proper spine arrow they will shoot as good as almost any bow ,better because you made it yourself.Shifty ps. go to the Leather Wall forum on Stick Bow ,subscribe to Bowyers Journal.etc.

 

[PitchyPine]

Don`t know what to say Rick, thanks bro that would be awesome. :hatsoff:
And thanks shifty and Hawk2 for the tips and links.
I`m not making any more bows for a while, i`m too involved with the knives and BP stuff right now.
I may buy another long bow from my local dealer in the near future, he stocks many brands of long bows and recurves. Thanks again. :hatsoff:

 

[PitchyPine]

hey pitchy you mite like the book "the traditional bowyers bible vol.2 of three.
there is a chapter on bows from boards .
I use hickery they say it's one of the best "white" woods to use .
did your bows take alot of set?(stay bent when unstrung)

The white oak ones only set about a inch or so, i made a couple from elm that set pretty bad but still work good.
Like i said it was a learning experiance and i`m no expert on the subject.
I do enjoy hunting with the bow (coumpound) and have learned to hunt all over again in order to get close to the deer.

 

[Minuteman]

I wasn't tryin' to tear ya down , just motivate you to figger out whats causin' the hand shock and rectify it. If not on this bow then maybe yer next one. Theres nothin worse than a bow that rattles yer fillin's loose. Well , except the ones that caress yer face as they fly apart at Mach 3! Keep making bows and I gaurantee you'll get the itch to hunt with 'em.
I've been making bows for about 7 years now and I just took my first deer with all hand made equipment from the bow and string to the arrows and broadheads. It took 3 years of trying to get the job done but it was worth it.
I've killed some nice bucks with a fiberglass recurve and before that a compound but that little 70 pound button buck was by far the greatest accomplishment I've ever experienced.
Hope I didn't ruffle yer feathers too much. Any bow that stays together and flings an arrow is an accomplishment in my book.
Well done.

 

[PitchyPine]

Not at all minuteman, i agree with you and read about different ways too shape the limbs to reduce shock. I`m saying or should of said my bows that are in the 60 lb range kill your elbow when shooting.
I have one that runs around 45 lbs that i would take hunting and maybe will next year.
Just too many irons in the fire right now to build anymore, like i`ve said i seem to have to give everything a try once just to satisfy my curiosity.
Bet you`ve built some nice ones, post a couple pics if ya have em.
Besides spring is almost here then it`s Harley time.

 

[FV Rago]

I've found that with my board bows, the handshock comes from too thick of wood. A good design for the board is the pyramid style bows. About 2.5" thick right above handle down to about a little less than a half inch for the limb tip.

I have my first hickory board bow hanging on the wall and shoot it now and then. Boy does it stack and the handshock is terrible, but it was my first bow.

Nowdays I use staves of osage, elm, or sometimes hickory.

Couple good books to get if you are into bow building, Trad. bowyers bibles one, two and three. I also like the Reginal Laubin Indian archery book.

A few good sites have already been mentioned, Paleoplanet excellant, PA is good and they have a monthly bow build off, also try[url] Tradgang.com[/url] bunch of good folks over there.

If you go to Tradgang, ask for a guy named Tim Flood. He makes really good board bows, he follows the Tim Baker style, wide with little tips.

I prefer 60" osage flatbows backed with sinew in the 65lb range. They are quick, strong, and I have found the the cast is just as good as most production recurves.

Frank


PS - the bow in my pic is a 48" osage recurve that I backed with 7 layers of deerleg sinew. It pulled 48lbs at 27".

I donated it to the St. Judes auction a few years back.

 

[Eric Krewson]

I have made bows for the last ten years and made 102 so far, just started making a flintlock. Handshock is caused by three things, poor tillering, too much mass in the limb tips and most of all, the limbs being out of time. In other words one limb is stronger at full draw, when the string is released it gets to the rest position slightly before the other limb with the shock of the two limbs fighting each other transferred to the shooters hand in the form of hand shock.

If you make one of these gizmos you can easily get the limbs bending propery because it marks just where you need to remove wood.
[url] http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=033419[/url]

You can tame hand shock somewhat by shooting very heavy arrows, 600gr or more.

 

[FV Rago]

Eric,

That is a neet gizmo.

I agree with your post except for the limb tip mass. I've made static recurves that well you know have alot of mass on the limb tips.

Reading your tradgang post, wow, I have not talked to a few of those gents in awhile, seems like a hundred years.

Thanks,

Frank

 

[RickD]

Pitchy..the Plains style quiver is made from buffalo but still needs a bottom laced in it and the beadwork needs to be sewn to the strap

 

[RickD]

Hers a back quiver that sort of matches I`ll give you that to..It aslo needs a bottom and the beadwork needs to be sewn
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/barbjd/Pitchy/007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/barbjd/Pitchy/008.jpg

 

[FV Rago]

Rick,

Nice quivers. Like what you do with the boar tusks.

Frank

 

[RickD]

Thanks Frank,
I doubt I`ll make anymore quivers and I tried to use up what I had around,came across the boars tusks and thought what the heck..

 

[PitchyPine]

That`s great Rick :bow: i`ll have to find a way of thanking you. :hmm: maybe a knife of some kind.

 

[RickD]

Dont worry about something in return..I dont shoot anymore and really have no use for the quivers..Better that someone that can use them have them than taking up space in my tiny workshop..

 

[tg]

"Dont worry about something in return..I dont shoot anymore and really have no use for the quivers..Better that someone that can use them have them than taking up space in my tiny workshop"

Now that is what the spirit of this sport is all about! a salute to you sir...