Brass frame revolvers

[Rifleman1776]

definite difference in brass

I was never aware of the great differences in brass or types until I purchased an Ox Yoke brass ramrod. I tried to thread the end for a handle and my dies simply wouldn't cut it. I finally took it to a gunsmith who threaded it on his machine lathe but only with great difficulty. It was hard-hard-hard. I later did some searching and learned that simply saying "brass" means little, there are many kinds.

 

[SPQR70AD]

I was never aware of the great differences in brass or types until I purchased an Ox Yoke brass ramrod. I tried to thread the end for a handle and my dies simply wouldn't cut it. I finally took it to a gunsmith who threaded it on his machine lathe but only with great difficulty. It was hard-hard-hard. I later did some searching and learned that simply saying "brass" means little, there are many kinds.

yes the strength of brass depends on amount of zinc and copper beta brass being the strongest

 

[nick_1]

it did not take any effort at all to shoot this thing loose. I did not keep an accurate count of how many shot. I suspect somewhere between 1 and 2k rnds? brand new 2021 pietta w/ 12 " bbl. I only shot one cylinder of 30g with RB and decided that was too hot. The rest were 25g T7. It seems like it happened suddenly. Everything was fine and then one day I noticed I had a bunch of cylinder shake.

this experience combined with me shooting two open top brass colt .36 cal loose in the 70's has cured me from ever buying another brasser.

 

[Secesh]

it did not take any effort at all to shoot this thing loose. I did not keep an accurate count of how many shot. I suspect somewhere between 1 and 2k rnds? brand new 2021 pietta w/ 12 " bbl. I only shot one cylinder of 30g with RB and decided that was too hot. The rest were 25g T7. It seems like it happened suddenly. Everything was fine and then one day I noticed I had a bunch of cylinder shake. View attachment 361050
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this experience combined with me shooting two open top brass colt .36 cal loose in the 70's has cured me from ever buying another brasser.

Is that 25gr of T7 ffg or fffg?

 

[nick_1]

would not make any difference but yes its FFF it is a not a monster load. pleanty of folks regularly stuff 38g of this stuff into a steel frame with no problems. I am useing that same powder spout now with 200g conicals in my steel frame and it does not feel excessive in any way shape or form.

 

[Secesh]

I believe Pietta recommends 22gr of 3f traditional Blackpowder as a max load for the brass frame ‘58. Not sure if they promote a BP substitute load. I’ve always just used traditional BP.

 

[Secesh]

I would love to have the opportunity to examine the frames of bonafide original G&G’s, S&B’s to see how they faired from battlefield and subsequent post war use.

 

[B P Arn]

I would love to have the opportunity to examine the frames of bonafide original G&G’s, S&B’s to see how they faired from battlefield and subsequent post war use.

I can't imagine that the manufacturers were very concerned about the exact alloy; I'm sure they used whatever they could obtain.

 

[Whitworth]

Thank for the responses. Just read an article that stated that there is a definite difference in bras quality from the old ones to more modern.

Yeah, Mrs. Whitworth complains the new Victoria's Secret bras aren't as good as the old ones..