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I'm with you MM. I've read this forum and books till my eyes bleed and I don't recall seeing that we are supposed to file off the rear of the barrel flush to the back of the breech plug. It does make sense though.
 
I have to ask;
Has anyone experienced their barrel "riding up" out of the stock at the tang area due to a beveled breech plug rib?
The only steps I've taken to reduce any problems with recoil is to elongate the holes in the barrels lugs for the pins to avoid forearm cracks.

Right or wrong, I like to keep as much metal on the rear end of the barrel as possible, even though I understand that a little trimming here and there shouldn't be a safety concern.
 
Since this thread appears to be hijacked already, I've got another one.

L&R makes a patent hooked breech for flintlocks that is slanted. Has anyone had any experience with it? Seems like that slant breech makes a nice ramp for the recoil forces to push up on the hook and try to lift the tang out of the stock. How much force is being placed on the tang bolt, both upward and backward?

Then again, slant breeches are common on Hawken rifles.
 
I just read the other comments to which you refer, and I must admit, I never have considered the issue from their point of view, either. So, I learned something here, today, too. My interest is to make sure that the recoil is taken by the thicker wood behind the barrel, and not by the thin tang, or tang bolt above.

As for the extra material at the rear of the barrel, its no different than providing a taller front sight than required, so that the owner can file the sight down to his particular load's "zero".

the first barrel I tried to match to a breechplug, I measure the length of the threaded portion of the plug, and then the depth of the threaded portion of the back of the barrel. I think there was about 1/8" difference in the two. I even called the barrel company to ask about that. I felt like a total stupid jerk when the lady said something like, " Why, we leave extra metal back there because we can't possibly know what brand or kind of breechplug you are going to put in OUR Barrel! Gunsmiths know this." As if it were common knowledge. The gun builders here must know it, because that is what they do when marrying a barrel and plug to a stock. I don't know where they learned. I still haven't asked them.

I am sorry about the tone of that comment. I took a couple of formal shop classes to add to the training I got from my father in using tools, and machines, when I was in high school. When I begin working in my shop, a short steel rule goes into the pocket of my shop apron, an old micrometer goes into the big pocket in the apron, and a pen or pencil goes in along side the ruler in that upper pocket. I never try to put any two pieces of metal together before testing them with simply finger turning, and then measuring them if that does not work.

I thought my first breechplug had the wrong thread, because I could not turn it into the barrel's threads by hand. After ordering and trying a couple of replacement plugs, I turned that barrel over to someone with more experience, because I was convinced I was doing something Wrong. He fitted the plug to the barrel and returned it to me. He said it was the correct thread, but the treads were cut by different taps, and dies, and they would only go together with lots of oil, and the use of a good wrench. He understood why I didn't want to force anything, and tried to make me feel better about the whole deal. I may have to remove that plug to drill the vent hole in the barrel, but at least now I know what to expect. I haven't checked that barrel since I got it back from him, (I set the project aside, and just have not gotten back to it)to see if I need to file down the back of the barrel. Its a .36 caliber rifle, so I don't plan to do so, unless the sides of the barrel that will butt against the stock look too slim.


Thanks for the comeback.
 
MeteorMan,
You're probably starting to realize that if you ask this Forum, "What time is it?" 30 members will tell you their version of how to build a clock :haha: ...That's one of the reasons I love it here.

In my opinion, :surrender: your fitting skills are outstanding, and I wouldn't lose sleep over the breech plug.
 

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